Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/02/22

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Bosch reliability
From: jhnichols at (Jim Nichols)
Date: Sun Feb 22 21:04:43 2009
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Hi Jerry,

My Volvo ownership skipped from a 1989 740 wagon to the 2007 V70 with a 
turbo 5 cyl.  I don't know where the change was made. I just got out the 
owner's manual to refresh my memory.  On page 196, in the Battery section, 
it says and I quote:  "The battery in your vehicle is located under the 
floor of the trunk."

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Lehrer" <>
To: "Leica Users Group" <>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Bosch reliability

> Jim
> Many cars I have owned have the battery 180 degrees away from the engine 
> compartment, but my wife's two Volvo V70s
> were NOT among them.
> Jerry
> Jim Nichols wrote:
>> Larry,
>> I have no complaints about Bosch parts because of too little exposure on 
>> my part.  However, your post brought to mind the thing that I found most 
>> unusual about the 2007 Volvo V70 that we bought.  Its battery is below 
>> the floor of the cargo compartment at the rear of the wagon.  I assumed 
>> it was brought about by one or more of the following:
>>    Weight distribution
>>    No room under the hood (bonnet)
>>    Getting it away from the high temperature under the hood (bonnet)
>> Has anyone encountered this type of installation recently?
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Zeitlin" 
>> <>
>> To: <>
>> Cc: "Lawrence Zeitlin" <>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:50 PM
>> Subject: [Leica] Re: Bosch reliability
>>> On Feb 22, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Jerry wrote:
>>>> I didn't know what a reliable electrical system was until I bought an
>>>> Alfa Romeo Veloce, with
>>>> an all Bosch system.  Then Porsches for the next 45 years,  All Bosch,
>>>> all good.
>>> Reasonable men may disagree about everything but Leicas. I owned a  1959 
>>> Alfa Romeo Sprint Veloce coupe with a body by Bertone. To my  mind one 
>>> of the most beautiful automobiles ever made. The engine was  powerful, 
>>> fed by twin Weber 40 DCOE carbs, and the brakes were  magnificent pieces 
>>> of sculptured aluminum. But the Bosch electronics  sucked. The starter 
>>> was obviously designed for Italian warmth. In  snowy New England it was 
>>> necessary to park going downhill if you  wanted to start in the 
>>> morning.. The undersized battery was in the  trunk and transferred its 
>>> weak current to the engine electrics via a  10 foot long cable. A 
>>> beautiful car, yes, but definitely for the  tropics.
>>> The Alfa owners newsletter published a cross listing of Delco and AC 
>>> parts which would fit the Alfa. Nothing to replace the starter  though. 
>>> Still, I loved that car. One of the best road cars I ever owned.
>>> Larry Z
>>> _
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In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at (Lawrence Zeitlin) ([Leica] Re: Bosch reliability)
Message from jhnichols at (Jim Nichols) ([Leica] Re: Bosch reliability)
Message from glehrer at (Jerry Lehrer) ([Leica] Re: Bosch reliability)