Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/02/22

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Bosch reliability
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Sun Feb 22 20:07:14 2009
References: <200902222249.n1MMmljh026693@server1.waverley.reid.org><B46F5D60-7730-4556-8EC0-3315E295F9EA@optonline.net> <A8A73FE0CE4940AE8C56AA1F26806C1C@jimnichols> <COL119-W5813EC254F118ABEF1828782AE0@phx.gbl>

Thanks, Greg.  I had not encountered it before the Volvo.  I do recall a 
similar setup many years ago in a Piper PA-12, where the battery was behind 
the baggage compartment, with an insulated aluminum tube connecting it to 
the starter. Not a well thought-out design for cold weather starts.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Lorenzo" <gregj_lorenzo@hotmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group LUG" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Bosch reliability


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> The battery in my M5 (BMW, not Leica) resides in the trunk.
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> This is an old drag racer's trick.
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> Greg Lorenzo
>
> Calgary, Canada
>
>> From: jhnichols@lighttube.net
>> To: lug@leica-users.org
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Bosch reliability
>> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:46:24 -0600
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> I have no complaints about Bosch parts because of too little exposure on 
>> my
>> part. However, your post brought to mind the thing that I found most
>> unusual about the 2007 Volvo V70 that we bought. Its battery is below the
>> floor of the cargo compartment at the rear of the wagon. I assumed it was
>> brought about by one or more of the following:
>> Weight distribution
>> No room under the hood (bonnet)
>> Getting it away from the high temperature under the hood (bonnet)
>>
>> Has anyone encountered this type of installation recently?
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Lawrence Zeitlin" <lrzeitlin@optonline.net>
>> To: <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Cc: "Lawrence Zeitlin" <lrzeitlin@optonline.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:50 PM
>> Subject: [Leica] Re: Bosch reliability
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Feb 22, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Jerry wrote:
>> >
>> >> I didn't know what a reliable electrical system was until I bought an
>> >> Alfa Romeo Veloce, with
>> >> an all Bosch system. Then Porsches for the next 45 years, All Bosch,
>> >> all good.
>> >
>> > Reasonable men may disagree about everything but Leicas. I owned a 1959
>> > Alfa Romeo Sprint Veloce coupe with a body by Bertone. To my mind one 
>> > of
>> > the most beautiful automobiles ever made. The engine was powerful, fed 
>> > by
>> > twin Weber 40 DCOE carbs, and the brakes were magnificent pieces of
>> > sculptured aluminum. But the Bosch electronics sucked. The starter was
>> > obviously designed for Italian warmth. In snowy New England it was
>> > necessary to park going downhill if you wanted to start in the 
>> > morning..
>> > The undersized battery was in the trunk and transferred its weak 
>> > current
>> > to the engine electrics via a 10 foot long cable. A beautiful car, yes,
>> > but definitely for the tropics.
>> >
>> > The Alfa owners newsletter published a cross listing of Delco and AC
>> > parts which would fit the Alfa. Nothing to replace the starter though.
>> > Still, I loved that car. One of the best road cars I ever owned.
>> >
>> > Larry Z
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at optonline.net (Lawrence Zeitlin) ([Leica] Re: Bosch reliability)
Message from jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols) ([Leica] Re: Bosch reliability)
Message from gregj_lorenzo at hotmail.com (Greg Lorenzo) ([Leica] Re: Bosch reliability)