Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/02/22

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Fair use -- Of Gee Bee's Photos?
From: glehrer at (Jerry Lehrer)
Date: Sun Feb 22 13:52:31 2009
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I have never seen any of Gee Bee's pictures of the Lake Country 
(Cumbria).  I  thought that most of his pictures were of Nothhamptonshire
which does not have more than a pond or two. a few rivers and a canal.

Lawrence Zeitlin wrote:
> This morning the CBS TV show "Sunday Morning" featured the work of 
> Shepard Fairy, the street artist whose rip off of the AP photo of 
> Barack Obama sparked a lawsuit. While not exactly condoning Fairy's 
> actions, the story tried to justify the point that artists were free 
> to violate the copyright laws if it was done in the name of art. 
> Examples used included Andy Warhol's Campbell Soup can and Marcel 
> Duchamp's Mona Lisa with a moustache. Apart from the inconvenient fact 
> that the Mona Lisa was never copyrighted, does the LUG consider this 
> "Fair Use." Could I take one of Gee Bee's pictures of the Lake 
> Country, stick a sunflower on it, and call it 'Kansas as it should be."
> How much alteration of an image does the LUG think is necessary before 
> a work can be considered original and not derivative? Is it the actual 
> image that is important or the artist's or photographer's intent? As a 
> point of reference, my wife, who is a well respected artist, refuses 
> to paint from a photograph which she, herself, has not taken. She 
> won't even paint from any of mine. (I hope this is a tribute to her 
> sterling character and not a critique of my photographs.)
> Larry Z

Replies: Reply from sonc.hegr at (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] Re: Fair use -- Of Gee Bee's Photos?)
In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at (Lawrence Zeitlin) ([Leica] Re: Fair use)