Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/02/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mark, They are already sharper than any other digital camera can record, how sharp to you want? ? My 28 Elmarit Asph is dam small and light already, in fact my complaint is that the grip ring is to narrow to get a good grip to mount the lens and remove it. ?Any smaller and I could not use it. ?If it was any sharper, I could not tell anyway. ?There is also the 35 Summilux pre-asph, the 50 Summicron, how much smaller do you want. ?All the Summarits are small and light weight. ?I have not handled the new 24/3.2, but I suspect it is much smaller than the Elmarit and the new Summilux for sure. ?Looks to me like they are already giving you what you want. Gene -------------- Original message from Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com>: -------------- > A lens optimized to the format it's working in has advantages. > They would not just be cheaper they'd be sharper. > And smaller. > And lighter. > All very Leica M or Leica LTM valued characteristics. > > But only if it seemed they for real are not going to be going full frame. > Meaning not anytime in the foreseeable future. > > ... Which is what it looks like to me. > > > It's not that they'd be "cheaper". > They'd cost what they should cost. > > IN the 90's or before we'd not pay for a 4 thousand dollar Hasselblad lens > to adapt to a 35mm camera when we are shooting 35mm. Shoot the format your > glass is. > > > Mark William Rabiner > > > > > From: > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group > > Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:58:18 +0000 > > To: Leica Users Group > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Erwin reviews new Summilux > > > > > > > > They have said all along that they would produce a full frame camera > > when it > > became practible. ?So why make a reduced coverage set of Digital lenses? > > ?The > > Summarits and 28 Elmarit Asph, and the new 24/3.4 are all priced at a > > lower > > more reasonable price range similar to the Zeiss lenses. ?No need to make > > cheaper Digital lenses. > > > > > > Gene? -------------- Original message from Ric Carter : > > -------------- > > > > > >> Surely a cheaper, smaller Leica lens could be produced for the M8 > >> since the circle of coverage would be smaller. It would have at least > >> those two advantages. > >> > >> Still, we see and hear only of compatible (read full 35mm frame) > >> lenses. > >> > >> So, maybe this indicates that Leica sees a full 35mm frame sensor in > >> its future? > >> > >> Ric Carter > >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/ricc/ > >> > >> > >> On Jan 31, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: > >> > >>> No, no, no, no Mark. > >>> No because they already make a new range of extremely compact modest > >>> aperture lenses, the Summarits. > >>> Those are tiny, relatively cheaper and have nearly all of the > >>> performance of > >>> the other modern designs but still covering your full 35mm crop > >>> circle. > >>> No because the M8 sensor capturea a stunning amount of information > >>> from > >>> their best glass already. > >>> No because the resolution of the M8 sensor is already appropriate if > >>> you > >>> want to go mathematical and calculate crop circles of confusion. > >>> No because any 'DX' lens would be useless on the film Ms that Leica > >>> still > >>> makes. > >>> No because any 'DX' lens would be useless on any future 35mm sensor M > >>> camera. > >>> > >>> The extra capability mentioned with the Elmar 24 for example is the > >>> performance in the outer field which is not recorded by the M8 'crop > >>> circle' > >>> Performance in the extrem corners is pretty academic. > >>> > >>> Did I mention no? ;-) > >>> > >>> 2009/1/31 Mark Rabiner > >>> > >>>> These super lenes by Leica to be used at a fraction of a fraction > >>>> of its > >>>> capabilities on an M8 with a 1.33 crop factor its enough but not > >>>> quite > >>>> enough to get someone to shoot film. > >>>> > >>>> Leica could make some killer DX lenes for the M8. > >>>> Incredibly sharp compact glass designed for the 1.33 crop circle > >>>> factor. > >>>> Film shooters are getting to be the tip of the iceberg of a niche. > >>>> > >>>> A niche niche. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Mark William Rabiner > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Cheers > >>> Geoff > >>> Weather is here, wish you were beautiful > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information