Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/01/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mark, It was his attempt to part from the pictorial photography popular in the early days. His intention I believe was to make you feel the landscape as much as see it. While the filtration may not be subtle the connection between your eye and the gravity of a large boulder is and can work with proper use of perspective and tonal relationships. This is most evident I think from his work in harsh outdoor light; when I look at some of those prints I squint. It may not look the same as if I were there but my body wants to react the same. Without the body there would be no intelligence or perception. We interact differently with a photograph compared to actually being in a place so Adams figured out how to compensate on a pretty deep level and passed it all on to us. Remember the Star Trek episode where the aliens had evolved into "pure intelligence" and were depicted as brains in a bell jar? That's just silly. At 04:07 PM 1/13/2009, you wrote: >You put a dark red or green filter on something, deep yellow even and your >interpretation of the shot is in your minds eye is certainly is not what >everybody else is seeing when they're standing next to you watching you take >the photo or what they're probably getting in their Brownies. >AA's filtration was as often as not not all the subtle. >He's critised about that; by people who no doubt walk around feeling great >about how subtle they all are. >But it fits my tastes perfectly. As in black and white landscapes I tend to >go for the gusto as well. >Realistic NOT I think as dramatic effect is possibility as most often the >intention. A shot that would knock your socks off. >All I ever asked from a picture... >Mine or what I'm looking at. > >The f64 ethic meant get it all in focus no fuzzy wuzzie pseudo art but it >didn't not mean having things look realistic. >Or look like they'd really look in a "straight" black and white shot. > > >Mark William Rabiner > > > > > From: TCB <tcb@thadbrown.com> > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:48:06 -0600 > > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Ansel Adams and digital > > > > Indeed. I was just flipping through 'The Negative' again and AA > suggests doing > > a > > polaroid before exposing a negative, instead of taking two negatives, > > developing > > one in the lab, and then developing the second according to the first. > > The > > funny > > thing is that my D300 has more or less devolved to doing this job. When > > I'm > > trying to be 'serious' and shooting MF I put my D300 on the tripod > > first. I > > like > > to shoot a lot of low and night things, so exposures can vary pretty > wildly. > > The > > D300 gives me an LCD and a histogram to read to get an idea of what's > > what > > with > > shadows and highlights, just like a polaroid. > > > > The other funny thing in 'The Negative' that I ran across was the closest > > thing > > you'll ever to an AA 'rant.' It was something like, 'I am categorized as > > a > > realistic photographer, but great care and effort is needed to make an > image a > > viewer will perceive as natural' which I took as AA's very gentle way of > > saying, > > 'You know, folks, I didn't just happen upon some dogwood blossoms and > pull out > > my > > point and shoot, that thing too some flamin WORK!' > > > > TCB > > > > On Tue 13/01/09 8:24 AM , Slobodan Dimitrov s.dimitrov@charter.net sent: > >> Couldn't agree with you more on this! > >> The very fact that he was instrumental in the development of PN55 at > >> Polaroid attests to the possibility. > >> I mean, who took Polaroid as a serious, and relevant, product at the > >> time? > >> sd > >> > >> On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:30 PM, TCB wrote: > >> > >>> AA had a deep, almost sensual understanding of > >> all of the > technology involved in > >>> making an image. I can't imagine he would be > >> resistant to any newer > tech > >>> available today, though I also can't imagine > >> he'd be locked into > any kind of pure > >>> digital rig. > >>> > >>> On Mon 12/01/09 11:05 PM , Nathan Wajsman photo@fr > >> ozenlight.eu sent:>> I am certain he would. In his autobiography, > >> written shortly before>> his death in 1984, he comments on the then > >> revolutionary notion of>> digital photography and makes some very > >> positive statements about >> what > >>>> he imagines will be its possibilities. I > >> cannot find the exact>> reference at the moment, but it is in > >> there.>> > >>>> Nathan > >>>> > >>>> Nathan Wajsman > >>>> Alicante, Spain > >>>> http://www.frozenlight.euhttp://www.greatpix.euhttp:// >> > > www.nathanfoto.com>> Books: > > http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&am > >> p;am>> p;y=0PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/pawsBlog:> > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 13, 2009, at 12:18 AM, Geoff > >> Hopkinson wrote:>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I believe that if AA was with us today, > >> he would>> be an avid > enthusiast for > >>>>> Photoshop as his darkroom. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> _______________________________________________>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for > >> more>> information > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >> information > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >> information > >> > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information Chris Saganich MS, CPH Senior Physicist, Office of Health Physics Weill Medical College of Cornell University New York Presbyterian Hospital chs2018@med.cornell.edu http://intranet.med.cornell.edu/research/health_phys/ Ph. 212.746.6964 Fax. 212.746.4800 Office A-0049 "I am the radiation"