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Subject: [Leica] New TMY
From: dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella)
Date: Sat Jan 10 08:13:51 2009
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Thanks.  I never used large tank times until I saw in a recent Kodak  
leaflet (with the new TMY) that large meant 1/2 gallon and up. I  
usually batch 8 rolls of 135 or 5 of 120, which is 2.5L in the tank.   
I usually use small-tank times with inversions for 30 seconds, then 4  
turns every minute (so essentially the large tank inversion).

I just ran another load this morning, this time original TMY -  
definitely comes out heavier.  Same time, same temp, and this was the  
*second* time the D-76 was being used.

It's interesting that you have shadow problems in CA - when I was in  
the desert outside LA shooting a few years ago and very recently in  
Mexico City, the biggest problem was not shadow separation but  
highlights - you could shoot with filters or without, pushing or not,  
and still get poor cloud/sky separation.  I don't know if light meters  
go crazy at altitude or whether the human eye is better capable of  
separating those tones than film is (my surmise was that the blue  
light was off the chart and it was shouldering out in the  
highlights).  It's a bizarre issue that I never seem to have in places  
that are relatively close to sea level.

D

On Jan 10, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:

> Wrong list to ask about real film issues.
> They've gone over to the chip side.
>
> I think the "thinness" is a possible adjustment for scanning. I've  
> seen a source for this, but can't recall where. I tended to print on  
> 3 or 3? on the old stuff, and still print about there with the new  
> stuff.
> What do you call a large tank?
> An 8 35mm reel tank, or 4 reel 120, is not considered a large tank,  
> even though one is using ? gal of chemistry.
> I find that I still have to pull my processing, as I shoot 400 at  
> 200, due to the high contrast in So Cal.
> But Shooting Neopan 400 at 200, and 1600 at 800, still requires full  
> processing time, if not longer depending on the situation.
>
> sd
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2009, at 6:22 AM, Dante Stella wrote:
>
>> Three questions for people who have used this film...
>>
>> 1.   Should negatives look essentially like old TMY negatives, i.e.,  
>> a little thin?
>>
>> 2.   Has Kodak abandoned the distinction between 120 and 35mm  
>> development times?  I seem to recall this being an issue in the  
>> past, but looking at the latest Kodak developing time charts, that  
>> distinction has disappeared (could this be related to the "new"  
>> versions of TX and TMY)?
>>
>> 3.   Does anyone  have a large-tank starting time for D-76 1:1 at any  
>> temperature?  Kodak doesn't have any recommendations.  It's not as  
>> if 1:1 is going to lead to any abnormally short development time.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dante
>>
>>
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