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Subject: [Leica] Canon 800mm IS
From: digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird)
Date: Sun Dec 28 07:15:10 2008
References: <15158112.1230393421489.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <049CA6F2-7B53-427D-B72E-825FFFA10ECD@verizon.net> <077D2268-6F83-4F9E-8F1C-C292FCA5177C@mac.com> <8782FDAC-7075-48C4-877C-6CDC026E22C9@mac.com> <daaeb97e0812271534t241eb9f1g722a0da894c0fdb4@mail.gmail.com> <4F81F233-F03D-4D23-A495-32D8D1C9C47D@mac.com> <daaeb97e0812271654l7ced392aodaea63c7b349c404@mail.gmail.com> <D701930E106148B3A51CC44119A2371D@D1S9FY41>

I've seen some Telyts on **ay and elsewhere, but all but one 400/6.8
came without the shoulder stock. And if the 400/6.8 will suffice for
my crop-sensor 40D, why not just get the Canon 400/5.6L? Thought about
the 100-400 Canon because it has IS, but I'll probably be using a
tripod most of the time anyway, and I've heard it's quality declines
at 400 like most zooms. I'm confused.

Regards,
Jim

On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Seth Rosner <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> Jim, try the 400/6,8 Telyt, MUCH handier, same image quality and only a bit
> lower magnification.
>
> Seth
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Laird" <digiratidoc@gmail.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Canon 800mm IS
>
>
>> George,
>>
>> My bad. But they are stunning. I'd still like any luger's opinion of
>> the 400 5.6L. I've also considered the 560 6.8 Telyt but they seem to
>> be in very short supply and I just don't know if I could get used to
>> carrying that cannon around. Still considering.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jim
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Lottermoser George <imagist3@mac.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wish I could do as well;
>>> but,
>>> not my images Jim.
>>> I only found them in a search
>>> for better examples from the 800.
>>>
>>> Fond regards,
>>> George
>>>
>>> george@imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 27, 2008, at 5:34 PM, James Laird wrote:
>>>
>>>> George,
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely stunning images!
>>>>
>>>> I'll never be in you're league but have been contemplating a Canon 400
>>>> 5.6L for my 40D to try my hand at bird photography and wondered if
>>>> you've used one and what you think of it. I'ts not the 800 but it's
>>>> one-tenth the price and in my budget.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Lottermoser George <imagist3@mac.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the first one I found - wide open
>>>>> <http://www.pbase.com/martinisabelle/image/106665049>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fond regards,
>>>>> George
>>>>>
>>>>> george@imagist.com
>>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 27, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Lottermoser George wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a better example of the lens's possibilities:
>>>>>> <http://www.pbase.com/martinisabelle/image/105425263>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> <http://www.pbase.com/martinisabelle>
>>>>>> where 800 is indicated
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fond regards,
>>>>>> George
>>>>>>
>>>>>> george@imagist.com
>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 27, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Leonard Taupier wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're right Doug. While I'm primarily a Nikon SLR user, I bought a
>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>> EOS 1DS MK II to use with my 560mm Telyt. This combination gives me
>>>>>>> beautiful results. I have since purchased Canon's 400mm f4 DO and
>>>>>>> 1.4X
>>>>>>> extender which also gives me beautiful results. Since I already had
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>> frame body (This was before the D3 and D700), I started looking at
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the better Canon L lenses to carry with me. I am fortunate that my
>>>>>>> dealer
>>>>>>> lets me try anything I want. I have since had to pass on 4 L lenses I
>>>>>>> tried,
>>>>>>> including the 24mm f1.4, the 16-35mm f2.8 and the 24 -105mm lenses. I
>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>> get the 35mm f1.4L lens which I find very nice. I almost passed on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> 400mm
>>>>>>> DO lens as well. I tried a used one from my dealer which I found had
>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>> contrast. A week later he let me try a new one. It was nothing like
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> first one. It had excellent contrast and high resolution. I bought
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>  I
>>>>>>> don't know if this kind of variability is common but it's certainly
>>>>>>> scary
>>>>>>> for a lens that cost over $10,000. which is the case with the 800mm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Len
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 27, 2008, at 10:57 AM, wildlightphoto@earthlink.net wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Leonard Taupier wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This lens is getting glowing reviews from the Fred Miranda site.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm beginning to question the value of user reviews particularly
>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> the user's quality standard, techniques and intended use are
>>>>>>>> unknowns
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> may differ from mine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An example is the user reviews of the EF 24mm f/1.4 L on FM and B&H
>>>>>>>> where it seems many are awed by the fast aperture and are willing to
>>>>>>>> forgive
>>>>>>>> weaker image quality at the faster apertures and the expectation of
>>>>>>>> cherry-picking dealer's (or importer's) stock to find one of the
>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>> samples, and give the lens a very high rating.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At any rate I expect that with the right conditions and technique
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> 800mmm f/5.6 IS can deliver much more than the sample photos
>>>>>>>> demonstrated.
>>>>>>>>
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