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Subject: [Leica] M8 upgrade - 90 Cron APO focusing problems
From: sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner)
Date: Sat Dec 13 06:16:02 2008
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Good news for me Sonny; I expect to be using either the (1958 model) 90/2,8 
Elmarit or the 3-element 90/4 Elmar on my expected M8.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr@gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] M8 upgrade - 90 Cron APO focusing problems


>I hate to tell you this, but my best performing 90mm on the m8 is the f4 
>for
> the CL. go figure.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:27 PM, H&ECummer <cummer@netvigator.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Luggers,
>> I have been having a dialogue with Schmidt (the local Leica distributor)
>> about getting my 90mm Summicron APO to focus properly on my M8. Despite
>> adjustments to the lens it still back focuses wide open in the close 
>> range.
>> Trying another tact I decided to go for the M8 upgrade to the viewfinder,
>> and that led in a cascade to the new shutter upgrade and in a what the 
>> hell
>> attitude I also opted for the scratch resistant LCD. I now have the 
>> camera
>> back and my 90 Cron is no better matched than before the upgrade and
>> adjustment. Lux lenses focus fine as before.
>>
>>  I would like to report on my impressions of the upgrade. First, the new
>> shutter is quieter than the 1/8000 one and there may be less shudder when
>> taking a picture which could mean sharper pictures at lower handheld 
>> shutter
>> speeds - but I haven't yet had a chance to test this out. I was rarely
>> concerned about the noise of the original shutter - only in silent and 
>> empty
>> churches in Europe did I notice its clacking - and not many churches were
>> empty and therefore silent.
>>
>> The big improvement is the viewfinder brightlines which are now optimized
>> for 2 meters instead of 0.7meters. I have shot about 100 pictures since
>> getting the camera back and the viewfinder accuracy is much improved. For 
>> me
>> this is a Big Deal. Switching between the Nikon D700 (95% viewfinder) and
>> the old viewfinder of the M8 was frustrating because the brightlines
>> outlined the picture taken by the M8 in a much less accurate fashion than
>> the D700.
>>
>> The scratch resistant LCD is a kind of silly upgrade - a $10 plastic 
>> screen
>> protector from Sony will accomplish the same protection and can be 
>> replaced
>> when it gets scratched. I may cover the scratch resistant LCD with one of
>> those anyway.
>>
>> In sum, for me, the upgrade which makes the biggest sense is the upgrade 
>> of
>> the view finder bright lines. I really wonder what Leica was thinking of
>> when they optimized the finder at 0.7 meters.
>> Now I have to decide whether to sell the 90 Cron or send it to Solms for
>> further adjusting so I am not really far ahead and my pocket book is 
>> quite a
>> bit lighter, (the full meal deal of upgrades is US$1807 in Hong Kong)
>> Merry Christmas to me.
>> Cheers
>> Howard
>> PS: If anyone is interested in a back focusing 90 Cron APO (which works
>> fine on film Leicas) please email me privately and we'll talk. Who knows
>> maybe it will work fine on your M8??
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Regards,
>
> Sonny
> http://www.sonc.com
> http://sonc.stumbleupon.com/
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> USA
>
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Replies: Reply from leicachris at worldnet.att.net (Chris Williams) ([Leica] Re:M8 upgrade - 90 Cron APO/ now 90mm lenses)
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Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] M8 upgrade - 90 Cron APO focusing problems)