Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/10/27

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Subject: [Leica] Olympus Pen Ft
From: tgray at protozoic.com (Tim Gray)
Date: Mon Oct 27 12:48:22 2008
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Likewise, the 1600 in Neopan 1600 is pure marketing.  ;)

TMZ is about 1000 speed film, Delta 3200 is a hair faster, and Neopan  
is slower.  I've heard around 600.  All these films get contrasty at  
their box speeds because they are all being pushed.

That being said, I rather like TMZ at 1600 and 3200.  It's better  
1600...

Tim

On Oct 27, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:

> I think TMZ at 3200 sucks. The 3200 speed is pure marketing, with no  
> relation to reality. Try Fuji Neopan 1600 (at 1600) instead. Much  
> better for scanning.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
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> On Oct 26, 2008, at 11:53 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>
>> Douglas B,
>> There are several factors there, I think.
>> You are scanning half of a 35mm frame
>> You have used a high speed and very grainy film
>> The light is soft, lower and low contrast
>> The featureless sky will always emphasise grain
>> Scanning BW film can emphasise the grain as well.
>> You can't use any grain reducing software on scanned BW film (not  
>> the CN
>> emulsions)
>> Scanning with a flatbed cannot capture as much range as a dedicated  
>> scanner
>> anyway.
>>
>> I think that you are expecting too much from the little camera in  
>> those
>> circumstances.
>> I've never tried any half-frame. I bought two of the more modern  
>> Olympus
>> 35mm compacts with the fixed 35mm lens (for my kids to learn with),  
>> as I
>> thought the lens would be better than a little zoom. I was very
>> disappointed. In the 70's I sold hundreds of the classic Trip 35  
>> and I don't
>> remember anyone being disappointed in the results quality. Maybe my  
>> memory
>> has faded.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>> Maike Harbets speaks on the S2. .... So we will drop down this  
>> technology to
>> our other systems.
>> Our priority is to modernise the R system which will be in the end  
>> an R10,
>> definitely.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On  
>> Behalf Of
>> Douglas Barry
>> Sent: Monday, 27 October 2008 07:35
>> To: lug@leica-users.org
>> Subject: [Leica] Olympus Pen Ft
>>
>> Following the recnt posts on the Pen F and its lens quality, I went  
>> out an
>> shot off a roll of Kodak P3200TMAX using my PenFT. Scanning the  
>> negs in
>> using my Epson 3200, I was astonished to see the level of grain and  
>> lack of
>> clarity in the images. This is an example.
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DouglasBray/kiosc2.jpg.html
>>
>> What am I doing wrong, or do these smaller negative images have to be
>> enlarged and printed chemically to get a better quality before the  
>> prints
>> are scanned?  The only other roll of film I ran through the Pen FT  
>> was a C41
>> colour roll which I gave to a minilab to be developed and printed.  
>> The
>> prints turned out fine.
>>
>> Any suggestions gratefully received.
>>
>> Douglas
>> _________
>> Douglas Barry
>> Bray, Co. Wicklow
>> Republic of Ireland
>>
>>
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Replies: Reply from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Olympus Pen Ft)
In reply to: Message from imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry) ([Leica] Olympus Pen Ft)
Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] Olympus Pen Ft)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Olympus Pen Ft)