Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/10/19

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Subject: [Leica] software licensing question
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sun Oct 19 10:19:54 2008
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On Oct 18, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Robert Meier wrote:

>
> Steve,   I was just offering another translation of aber Masse kann  
> Klasse night ersetzen.   Bob
>
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Robert Meier wrote:
>>
>>> Quantity can't replace quality.

hi Bob, I follow and I couldn't agree more with this truism, but being  
practical too, my response would be the same.
The strategy that Leica is following has nothing to do with me, and  
fulfilling my own needs.
While it may work, it is very risky, especially in this tough  
international economic climate, and it may well be a rocky road to  
disaster for the company.


Steve




>>>
>>
>>
>> nice thought, but it can and it will if it becomes so unaffordable   
>> that it will go out of business...
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Hopkinson" 
>>> <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au
>>> >
>>> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:46 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] software licensing question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hmm, that's a pretty negative take on it! There is a whole  
>>>> speech  in the
>>>> middle dealing with the new S system. There are also several  
>>>> superb  new M
>>>> lenses. I thought that Leica had a very good Photokina myself. I   
>>>> was just
>>>> taken with the German alliteration of Masse-Klasse especially. I   
>>>> read the
>>>> translation of the speech from the original German with Google  
>>>> translate,
>>>> since my smattering of high school German is definitely not up  
>>>> to  the task
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Geoff
>>>> Aber Masse kann Klasse nicht ersetzen....Aber die R10 kommt.
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On   
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Steve Barbour
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2008 09:06
>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] software licensing question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 18, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Douglas Sharp wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>> Literally - high-volume production is no alternative to high-class
>>>>> production - The R10 is on its way
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> nothing like making the apology before the camera...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keep on  upgrading, I really hope that you mean CS3 and CS4! I
>>>>>>> have my
>>>>>>> preorder in for CS4.
>>>>>>> Check the upgrade options, often upgrades from earlier cost no
>>>>>>> more than
>>>>>>> from the current(at least for a period). Or you can get the
>>>>>>> current suite
>>>>>>> with a free upgrade to the latest when it hits the streets.
>>>>>>> I have a melange of suites and upgrades and components here.  
>>>>>>> My PS
>>>>>>> CS3
>>>>>>> baulked at upgrading the PS part of my CS2 suite but was happy  
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> accept the
>>>>>>> serial number of my earlier stand alone CS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way, I initially thought of CS4 as primarily a means of
>>>>>>> moving to the
>>>>>>> latest Raw support. However when you dive in it looks to have a
>>>>>>> lot of very
>>>>>>> good improvements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> please tell us a little about these if you would Geoff...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> also what does the German phrase below mean, why in German?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>>> Aber Masse kann Klasse nicht ersetzen....Aber die R10 kommt.
>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>>> lug
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2008 01:38
>>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] software licensing question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aah, the fine print.  Thanks Brian!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> leo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Brian Reid wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No. That is in violation of the Terms and Conditions in the   
>>>>>>>> upgrade
>>>>>>>> contract.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so if i buy an upgrade for photoshop 4,  can i sell my upgrade
>>>>>>>>> version of photoshop 3 to someone who wants to upgrade from
>>>>>>>>> photoshop
>>>>>>>>> 2?
>>>>>>>>
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