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Subject: [Leica] M8 firmware upgrade
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Mon Sep 22 07:32:01 2008

Yes, this is very inconvenient, since I almost never carry any more than a 
few Dollars, recently Euros for lunch or so.  I guess my wife likes this, so 
I will not be able to buy anything at Photokina, except lunch, or so she 
hopes.  ;-)

Gene

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com>
>
> I work for a client in Cologne. I visit there frequently. Pretty well  
> everything is cash only, my client says Germans don't trust credit and  
> almost never borrow. Even my UK Eurocard cash card will not work there  
> since they won't take anything without a CE mark.
> I have to get cash out of the cash machine. That is one reason why I  
> have never managed to buy a Leica in Germany, never enough cash on me.
> Frank
> 
> 
> On 22 Sep, 2008, at 10:41, grduprey@mchsi.com wrote:
> 
> > Douglas,
> >
> > Yes, that was our experience with TUI Fly, they ignored my Camera  
> > Bag, but the rest went as check in.  If they had weighed my camera  
> > bag, it would also have had to go check in, as the computer and a  
> > bunch of other stuff was in it.  ;-)
> >
> > As for the card situation, the farther East in Germany (Berlin) it  
> > is better, but in the Thuringen area, they flatly said No Credit  
> > Cards of any kind.  Even Cash Cards, which is what we have been  
> > using.  Here in Oberbergesihes land (Gummersbach) and Rhineland  
> > (Koln) they are very adamant about not taking anything except the  
> > Eurocard.  Last week I went to buy a light jacket in a major  
> > department store in Koln, and had to use cash, as they do not except  
> > cards.  Luckily I had enough with me, but I do not normally carry  
> > cash, as I use my cash card instead.  Even the Leica Store at the  
> > factory does not except credit cards.  We have had no such problems  
> > in Italy, even in small villages, and in Poland this trip.
> >
> > By the way, I think we will be in your part of the country the first  
> > week of October.  Maybe we can meet up?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gene
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@gmx.de>
> >>
> >> One of our local low-cost carriers in Germany (TUIFly) allows 5 kilos
> >> (about 10 lbs) of cabin baggage + 1 laptop. They however never seem  
> >> to
> >> check the weight of the hand baggage (a smallish camera back pack),  
> >> but
> >> they do check the size in a sort of frame in front of the check-in  
> >> counter.
> >>
> >> They probably think that nobody is daft enough to carry quite a bit  
> >> more
> >> more than 5 kilos in a small backpack :-)
> >>
> >> I have found that most German stores DO accept Visa or Mastercard,  
> >> but
> >> very, very reluctantly - most of them prefer to use direct-debit
> >> (Maestro) with or without PIN input, or straight cash.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Douglas
> >>
> >> Clive Moss wrote:
> >>> Have you had any problems with carry-on weight on local airlines?  
> >>> Many
> >>> airlines weight limit of 15lbs or so is loosely enforced, but a  
> >>> killer if
> >>> one has a laptop and camera gear. I had to check a carry-on on my  
> >>> last trip
> >>> back from Australia, but they fortunately did not weigh my camera  
> >>> bag, which
> >>> was smaller, but probably weighed more!
> >>> --
> >>> Clive
> >>> http://clive.moss.net/blog
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, <grduprey@mchsi.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Steve,
> >>>>
> >>>> Well the same security checks that are seen at US airports are in  
> >>>> effect
> >>>> here, and in my experience not a big deal.  The lines seem  
> >>>> shorter here
> >>>> though.  Train security is pretty much non-existant, and this is  
> >>>> the area
> >>>> where you need to watch your bags for theft.  So far we have been  
> >>>> lucky, but
> >>>> I do keep an eye out for curious characters.  So far we have used  
> >>>> local
> >>>> airlines twice, TUI Fly and German Wings, and the train 3 times  
> >>>> with good
> >>>> results.  For the train we decided to go with the EuroPass which  
> >>>> seems to be
> >>>> pretty painless, although it is expensive to purchase, but over  
> >>>> all it runs
> >>>> a bit less for overall cost, and you ride first class, so you get  
> >>>> seats with
> >>>> more comfort and also have power outlets for your computer and  
> >>>> other
> >>>> electrical toys.  One problem with the EuroPass is it may not be  
> >>>> valid in
> >>>> the ex-Soviet block countries... Ours was not valid in Poland, so  
> >>>> we had to
> >>>> pay for the train to Berlin, although not very expensive at all.
> >>>>
> >>>> Concerning electrical devices, most if not all current devices  
> >>>> work on all
> >>>> power sources, so you need only a plug adapter, not the old  
> >>>> converters.  I
> >>>> have sleep apnea, so I use a CPAP machine, I had no adapter plug,  
> >>>> so I used
> >>>> a power adapter from our trip 4 years ago, it did not have enough  
> >>>> juice to
> >>>> run it.  A quick trip to the Saturn store and they had a chord  
> >>>> that fit and
> >>>> now I have a proper power connector with cable.  The M8 charger  
> >>>> comes with
> >>>> the plug needed, and I got a plug kit from my Apple dealer in the  
> >>>> US prior
> >>>> to leaving to use with the MackBook power cube and cable.  So  
> >>>> make sure you
> >>>> have the proper plug.
> >>>>
> >>>> For the most part the trip has been relatively trouble free.   
> >>>> Even the
> >>>> Taxis in Poland are reliable and cheap.  I will say that between  
> >>>> our trip in
> >>>> '04 and this one, things in Poland have greatly improved, we have  
> >>>> had no
> >>>> problems finding people who speak English (Which is good as my  
> >>>> attempts at
> >>>> learning Polish are poor at best, a very complicated language for  
> >>>> me) and
> >>>> credit/cash cards are accepted just about everywhere, which is  
> >>>> more than I
> >>>> can say about Germany credit card wise.  Outside of the Credit/ 
> >>>> Cash card
> >>>> problem, Germany is great also.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gene
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>> From: Steve Barbour <kididdoc@cox.net>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 20, 2008, at 2:39 AM, grduprey@mchsi.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Steve,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well I'm not sure I qualify as a big time traveler, but this  
> >>>>>> trip is
> >>>>>> surely the biggest we have ever attempted.  ;-)  The Macbook has
> >>>>>> been a real joy to work with and fits into my camera bag very
> >>>>>> nicely, but adds weight... No surprise!  As for e-mail access, it
> >>>>>> has not been bad, only a few spots so far with no access,  
> >>>>>> mostly in
> >>>>>> the ex-GDR hotels this past week.  OUtside of hotels, you should
> >>>>>> expect to pay for access, as not all have free internet services.
> >>>>>> In Poland the hotel had free internet WiFi in Warsaw's Old Town.
> >>>>>> Italy was also not a problem, but the hotel in Milan had a high  
> >>>>>> fee
> >>>>>> for its use, where in Venice it was free.  Germany on the whole  
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> also not a problem except for this past week in the fore  
> >>>>>> mentioned
> >>>>>> Ex GDR area in the Thuringen area.  Photo opertunities are  
> >>>>>> great as
> >>>>>> expected.  And I am looking forward to Photokina next Friday and
> >>>>>> Saturday (26th & 27th).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The only down side has been my wife catching a bug this past week
> >>>>>> and has not been able to get out of the house since, but she is
> >>>>>> finally getting better.  She needs to get better soon as the two
> >>>>>> things she has really wanted to do are coming up soon... This  
> >>>>>> week a
> >>>>>> trip down the Rhine, and in the first part of October the trip to
> >>>>>> Paris.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The weather is starting to cool down, so we may just have to  
> >>>>>> take a
> >>>>>> trip to Spain and visit Luis and Nathan in the second half of
> >>>>>> October to get warmed up again.  ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not sure if that answers your questions, but so far no real  
> >>>>>> problems.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> great to hear, how about passing travel security and concern re  
> >>>>> theft?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Steve
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Gene
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>>> From: Steve Barbour <kididdoc@cox.net>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2008, at 1:03 AM, grduprey@mchsi.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Steve,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That seems to be the opinion on the LUF also, however, I have  
> >>>>>>>> yet to
> >>>>>>>> try it.  The turn on and format functions are greatly improved
> >>>>>>>> though, I need to get me a couple of 4G SDHC cards to try out  
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> part, but not sure where to go here in Germany, I'm in  
> >>>>>>>> Eckenhagen,
> >>>>>>>> about 60 -80 Km East of Koln, (I'm not in Iowa anymore,  
> >>>>>>>> Toto...).  I
> >>>>>>>> guess I can get some at Photokina next week, and try it out.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> with all of your travels Gene, how are you managing with the
> >>>>>>> computer /
> >>>>>>> e-mail access...give us a few tips...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Steve
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Gene
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>>>>> From: Steve Unsworth <lug@steveunsworth.co.uk>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It could be my imagination, but noise seems better  
> >>>>>>>>> controlled at
> >>>>>>>>> high ISOs
> >>>>>>>>> too. I need to run some better tests, at the moment I'm  
> >>>>>>>>> using a
> >>>>>>>>> MacBook.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Steve
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 18/9/08 22:19, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Just downloaded it and tried out the auto ISO, and it works
> >>>>>>>>>> smoothly and
> >>>>>>>>>> quickly.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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