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Subject: [Leica] About to take M8 plunge - but worried about blown highlights...
From: imagist3 at mac.com (Lottermoser George)
Date: Tue Sep 2 08:54:45 2008
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In my experience:
The M8 set to -2/3
(which is how mine is set 24/7 for all conditions)
will preserve highlight detail in "most" situations.

As Tina indicated digital imaging is much more like transparency film  
than negative film.
Yet, the M8 displays very good, useable dynamic range compared to 5D.
Software allows for successfully reclaiming highlights (to a point);
and what can be pulled out of a shadow from an M8 file continues to  
drop my jaw.

Obviously if one is photographing available light within a room with  
sunlight outside a window; any film or sensor will be strained to  
hold detail throughout 14 -20 stops.

As Daniel mentioned - taking a trip to a dealer and working the  
camera near a window would quickly answer your concerns. If you do  
this, be sure to bracket in one third stop steps and then spend some  
time with the files in Lightroom. If you don't have experience with  
Lightroom - find someone who does - so that you can truly see  
everything within the image file. You will be amazed at these files.

Fond regards,
George

george@imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com/blog
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On Sep 2, 2008, at 4:10 AM, Wyndham Pulman-Jones wrote:

> The one thing that has held me back from buying an M8 is my dislike  
> of the look of blown highlights in digital photos. Almost all of my  
> shooting is of people interacting in social and working situations  
> - and I always expose by taking incident readings for people's  
> faces and letting everything else fall where it may. This  
> frequently means that lighter exteriors visible through windows or  
> doors are overexposed - but when using fast colour negative film  
> there is almost always some tone and character to the overexposed  
> area. The same also applies to highlights on people's hair when  
> strongly backlit.
>
> When I have used digital (Epson RD-1, Canon 1Ds) I have not liked  
> the totally white blown out highlights, fringed with un-natural  
> looking chromatic aberation, that often result from shooting in  
> this way (when you are not able to worry about exposinig for areas  
> of the photo not carrying the narrative interest, which might end  
> up significantly overexposed.)
>
> Does the M8 suffer from this just as much as any other digital  
> camera? If so, what's the best technique for stopping those  
> 'outside the scene' highlights from blowing out? Or is it just not  
> possible with the M8 to 'set and forget' exposure in the way that  
> you can with incident metering for the latitude of negative film?
>
> (I found some M8 DNG samples which show totally blown out 'through  
> the window' highlights which have the digital look that just  
> doesn't look right to me: http://rpo.eranet.tv/)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon.
> Cambridge, UK.
>
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Replies: Reply from imagist3 at mac.com (Lottermoser George) ([Leica] About to take M8 plunge - but worried about blown highlights...)
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