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Subject: [Leica] Ebay Policy changes..... No more Checks.....
From: jshul at comcast.net (Jim Shulman)
Date: Thu Aug 21 09:24:49 2008
References: <032401c9039a$8c4ccc60$a4e66520$@net> <0DEBB29C-95FA-4F81-9522-00C56468EB01@frozenlight.eu>

Nathan,

You're exactly right about intra-US purchases.  Therein lies the problem.

For the casual eBay vendor who's cleaning out a house or closet, getting a
check or money order is perceived to be far more convenient than dealing
with PayPal.  It's often the difference between putting up items for
auction, or not--if the seller has to put up with any inconvenience, he or
she will probably dump the item or sell it at a garage sale. Many of my
favorite eBay finds (I happen to like obscure things of not terrifically
great value) have come from occasional vendors who are on a cash or check
basis only.

Similarly, there are many individuals who will not make purchases if they
have to use PayPal or some similar service.  A good friend of mine runs a
vintage magazine business, with a notable number of customers who insist on
paying by check or money order.  He worries that their business may
disappear.

The obvious answer is that eBay wants 100% of its cash flow to go through
wholly-owned PayPal, thus ensuring that they get a 3% premium for every
transaction.  It harkens back to the days when US department stores would
only accept their own credit cards.

Jim Shulman
Bryn Mawr, PA


-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+jshul=comcast.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+jshul=comcast.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Nathan
Wajsman
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:14 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Ebay Policy changes..... No more Checks.....

To be honest, I doubt that this change will have any impact whatsoever  
on international transactions, for two reasons:

1) I have never encountered any seller who would accept a check or  
money order from abroad, simply because of the high cost of depositing  
it in one's bank account.

2) At least in Europe, checks are basically not used anymore. I have  
not written a check since I left the US in 1995. I did receive one  
from someone in the UK about 6 or 7 years ago, but that was the last  
time. All transactions here are done by bank transfer (both  
domestically and internationally), by direct debit or by other  
electronic means.

I think the only transactions where checks are still used a lot of  
ebay purchases are intra-US deals.

While I do not like ebay pushing people towards Paypal (and if I sell  
or buy something to/from someone in Europe, I will certainly use bank  
transfer and not Paypal), I can understand that they want to eliminate  
checks. Paper is so 19th century. Just like paper airplane tickets,  
checks are a thing of the past.

Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
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On Aug 21, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:

> Starting October ( 1? 30?) Ebay will no longer allow buyers to pay by
> personal checks nor by money orders.  ( which means PayPal only.)
>
> Can you believe they are stoking their own coffers at the expense and
> especially risk of sellers?
>
> If you did not  know, Paypal payments can be reversed...... and the  
> buyer
> may still have the merchandise......
> Paypal does not guarantee Foreign ( non-US) payment transactions....
>
> I am OK with this to pa a point for a $50 item.... but a $2500 Leica  
> Item???
> I am more than risk adverse.....
>
> I guess if you have something to sell, to a foreign audience, or do  
> not like
> to use Paypal,  you best sell it now.....
>
> Frank Filippone
> red735i@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>


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