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Subject: [Leica] SFMOMA incident
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Tue Aug 12 20:15:17 2008
References: <4268A9826B9DBE4D938B902A6BC8030888A401@exchange8.asc.local> <6.2.1.2.2.20080812091447.01476b28@pop.med.cornell.edu>

It is standard at all cricket matches here, and has been for a few years.
Remember you are usually 100+ yards from the action, and still the policy
persists. A lot of this has to do with media rights.
Cheers
Jayanand

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Chris Saganich 
<chs2018@med.cornell.edu>wrote:

> Yea, I was witness to a similar event last Thursday.  Richie Havens played
> a free concert in downtown Brooklyn in a small plaza.  The coordinators
> asked that concert goers to restrict taking photographs to the first two 
> (or
> three) numbers, (ie crowing around the stage being annoying with big 
> cameras
> for the whole show.)  They were explicit in citing those "professional
> cameras with the large lenses" as being of most concern.  For the most part
> people came to the stage snapped a couple picts and went back to their 
> seat,
> except one guy, who after about 6 or so songs was politely asked to
> finish-up.  Well what a fuss he made, bla, bla, public place, I'm not a
> professional, and refused to move.  Like out of spite switched his camera 
> to
> burst mode or something and became even more confrontational.  The the
> concert coordinators had no real authority to remove the guy from a public
> place so they dropped it.  I noticed he eventually became bored and decided
> enjoying Havens was better then photographing him.
>
> Question:  This restriction of "professional cameras with big lenses" seems
> to be a new policy around here
>
>
> At 01:51 PM 8/11/2008, you wrote:
>
>  I wasn't going to post this, because I figured someone else would. In the
>> 206 comments to Hawk's initial blog post (when I went to it) one was from
>> someone who proported to be one of the two SFMOMA employees who escorted 
>> the
>> photographer from the premises. He stated that Mr. Hawk was asked to stop
>> photographing ten  times not for taking photos in the atrium, but for what
>> the employees believed was perching on a balcony and taking a photograph
>> down a staff members amply filled blouse. Whether or not this was actually
>> the case (to the untrained eye a large aperture wide angle lens at the
>> appropriate angle for capturing a large room can probably look like a
>> super-telephoto pointed in a strange direction) it sounds like a 
>> reasonable
>> starting point for a flare-up. It also appears from reading a few of his
>> blog posts that he can be a confrontation waiting for an event. And the 
>> fact
>> that he continued photographing after being asked to stop ten times 
>> suggests
>> to me not that the atrium of SFMOMA was in such desperate need of being
>> photographed at that exact moment, but that he was looking for a fight.
>>
>> There are photographs that it's a journalists duty to go to the mat to
>> get. The already well photographed atrium of SFMOMA probably isn't, IMHO,
>> one of those.
>>
>> kc
>>
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In reply to: Message from kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu (Kyle Cassidy) ([Leica] SFMOMA incident)
Message from chs2018 at med.cornell.edu (Chris Saganich) ([Leica] SFMOMA incident)