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Subject: [Leica] visoflex
From: afirkin at (Alastair Firkin)
Date: Sun Aug 3 20:51:56 2008

Len, I must chip in and admit I replaced the Elmar C 90 with the Macro Elmar 
recently. I wanted it for travel, to add a bit of closer up ability to the 
M. I've not used it much yet. Seems very nice, and the macro attachment 
works for me, but the lens barrel does not lock: does yours. I mean, when 
collapsed, its "free" wheeling.

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From: Leonard Taupier <>
To: Leica Users Group <>
Subject: Re: [Leica] visoflex
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:04:45 -0400


I fully understand. My comment was a more universal observation. I  
don't know of anyone on the LUG, other then me, that has one. Before  
the introduction of the new Summarits it was one of Leica's least  
expensive lenses. Plus it's a multi purpose lens, macro, portrait,  
and a very compact telephoto. Just an observation.


On Aug 1, 2008, at 2:46 PM, David Rodgers wrote:

> Len,
> Maybe not so much ignore as resist consideration due to the approx $2K
> price tag for an f4 lens. I'd trade my 9/2.8 for a 90/4 ME in a  
> second,
> because the 90/4 is uniquely Leica and I like collapsible lenses. I've
> wanted one since they were first introduced. OTOH, while I like
> rangefinders, close up photography is not one of their strengths;
> although the M8 might be more practical than a film body since you can
> see the results immediately.
> DaveR
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leonard Taupier []
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 11:01 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] visoflex
> For some reason Lugers ignore the existence of the 90mm macro-Elmar.
> It is very sharp, with it's dedicated close focus attachment can
> capture an object as small as 3 inches across, and it's very small.
> It's the only lens I use for my flower photography. I have had mine
> for two years now. I also have a Viso III with many attachments and
> lens heads. I find it most useful with the 65mm Elmar and focus
> adapter, but also find it very useful for very close macro shots with
> the bellows or telephoto use with the 200mm and 400mm Telyts. And yes
> the 50mm DR Summicron works very well on the M8 but it must be
> mounted in close up mode. It does not require any modification but as
> is cannot be mounted in normal mode.
> I can do it all but still prefer the 90mm macro-Elmar for every day
> close-ups. And I have never seen when Popflash was out of the lens or
> adapter.
> Len
> On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:50 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>> I have various viso valuables and never thought to play with them
>> on the M8
>> as yet. You folks are just masking the ground glass for the sensor
>> size
>> then? With a static set up (tripod and inanimate subject) I guess
>> you can
>> get near instant feedback via the LCD to shoot again if you need to
>> adjust
>> composition/exposure. Cool! I must leap in and try it out.
>> For Leo, I recall there was an article in LFI on this a little
>> while back.
>> I'll catch you off-list on that.
>> One possible alternative for anyone willing to invest more: There's
>> the neat
>> little macro Elmar 90 collapsible which goes down to .7m (27 inches
>> or so in
>> old speak) on its own or .5m with the macro adaptor. The lens seems
>> to be
>> relatively inexpensive used, although you don't see the macro
>> adaptor as
>> often.
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] visoflex
>> This is really a question of how much control of the subject size:to
>> chip area - over what focusing range.
>> With no additional attachments you'll have a very useable macro range
>> for general macro work.
>> When you find yourself wanting more control of various magnifications
>> (and/or working distances), you'll begin to get a feel for what "you"
>> want in terms of versatility. Or you may find that it's not for you -
>> as apparently many here have.
>> Bottom line: a Visoflex III and any M mount lens will immediately
>> produce very satisfying macro results.
>> Fond regards,
>> George
>> On Jul 31, 2008, at 8:25 PM, leo wesson wrote:
>>> What magic parts do I need to do this with my M8 assuming that I
>>> will use my
>>> 90 and 50mm summicrons?
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