Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/08/01

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Subject: [Leica] Visoflex
From: mark at (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri Aug 1 11:15:01 2008

Its a little better so see the Viso slammed by someone who's actually used
it. The fact is the use of the Viso is quite friendly. You don't feel at
odds with anything. the universe included. Nothings happening which
shouldn't be happening. It becomes very obvious and intuitive and you wonder
why it would be necessary to work any other way.

Having full control over the mirror feels like an advantage not a

And you hate to see that control go;
in my case go by the way of using one of my 105, 60 or 55mm macro's on my
Nikon system. AF or otherwise. Digital or film.

But a welcome post like this on the LUG is so rare and nice to see.
Someone's talking about not just the gear but the results gotten from that
gear in the same breath.
In this case 30x40 black and white prints. From 8x10 negs.

Usually its HAMMERS and maybe some NAILS but nary a block of WOOD to be seen

And certainly not a birdhouse.
Mark William Rabiner

> From: Lottermoser George <>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <>
> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:22:27 -0500
> To: Leica Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] visoflex
> Your point on the ease of use of slr/macro is well taken Frank.
> When and if I "intend" to do close up or macro work requiring quick
> response I will reach for the 100 apo on the R8/DMR for the reasons
> you note.
> Yet, when I want to truly wish to control all aspects of the image
> I'll set up the Ultima with any of a variety of lenses and use the
> shift, tilt, swing to achieve exactly the depth of field desired.
> And when I want to travel light, and small, yet want the
> "possibility" of close up/macro - the Visoflex in the M8 bag serves
> that role best.
> Each set up has its usefulness and unique characteristics and joy
> comes in many flavors.
> One of the most joyful, and frustrating, macro shoots I ever did
> involved an 8x10 deardorf with a 35mm Eurygon on it. It took several
> days in the studio and resulted in 4 wonderful 30x40 black and white
> prints.
> I don't view this dialogue as a debate with a winner or loser.
> Fond regards,
> George
> On Aug 1, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>> YMMV... auto diaphragm lenses with appropriate bellows etc. are a
>> joy to use
>> in Macro work.  You will not get that from any Visoflex products.
>> And this
>> is why I say that SLR's are made for ease of use ( convenience.....
>> George)
>> for macro work.
>> OTOH, buy a Vosoflex III , take apart your handy dandy 90 Elmar and
>> try it
>> out with your M8..... see if you like working this way.  Only you
>> can really
>> tell if you are of the constitution to enjoy taking pictures with a
>> Visoflex.
>> Remember to stop down just before you take the picture..... or use
>> it wide
>> open and face the DOF consequences....!
>> Frank Filippone
>> I found it as easy to use as my Nikon
>> FG and Micro nikkor set-up.
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