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Subject: [Leica] Lecia Street Photography
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue Jul 15 11:44:49 2008
References: <20080712061612.F768CE1@resin18.mta.everyone.net> <FF3B3D7A-D53C-4655-B2FD-25D48B60F716@frozenlight.eu> <79081F91-7F13-4444-880B-2477C3066DE9@cox.net> <A22689D2-1293-4D97-B97D-42E99FEB424B@frozenlight.eu> <023a01c8e6a7$9e4ef240$daecd6c0$@net> <5DDAD1A9-9405-4B1F-A69E-B714C5B8C1D8@cox.net>

btw, I just noticed that this whole thread has been about Lecia Street  
photography...


is that the new coding for leica photography without a leica?


Steve



On Jul 15, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Steve Barbour wrote:

>
> On Jul 15, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Jim Shulman wrote:
>
>> It's not that you don't have the balls, just that you'd prefer to  
>> retain
>> them.
>
> I've never run into a parisan couple on the street that wouldn't put  
> their passion on hold, to sign a consent...
>
>
>
>
> ;-)  ;-)
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>>
>>
>> Jim Shulman
>> Bryn Mawr, PA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+jshul=comcast.net@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jshul=comcast.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of  
>> Nathan
>> Wajsman
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:31 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Lecia Street Photography
>>
>> I am not sure I agree, Steve. First of all, I do not have the balls  
>> to
>> interrupt a passionate couple to request a picture. The whole point  
>> of
>> these is that the couples are absorbed in each other, not the
>> photographer.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>
>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:44 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Illegal Paris images here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/15.jpg
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2003/2003_30alt4.jpg
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt4.jpg
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt6.jpg
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt8.jpg
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt9.jpg
>>>>
>>>> I am happy to break French laws every time I am in France. So far
>>>> the gendarmerie have not come after my web sites...
>>>
>>>
>>> not bad Nathan, but IF you had gotten a signed nonsent for these,
>>>
>>> not only would they have been legal images, they would have been
>>> much, much better...
>>>
>>> especially since in many of these photos,  the subjects aren't even
>>> looking at you...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nathan
>>>>
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>
>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 12, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Alastair Firkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dodge the trouble, smile and keep shooting: that will be my plan
>>>>> in Paris. 3 weeks to capture a brief glimpse of life in 2008. It
>>>>> will be fun. I don't expect to upset anyone, but I do believe in
>>>>> street photography as a way to record the life we lead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Alastair
>>>>>
>>>>> --- eboehmjr@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Eric Boehm, Jr" <eboehmjr@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Lecia Street Photography
>>>>> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:30:11 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>> Alastair,
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, a sad state of affairs. My understanding is that in a  
>>>>> public
>>>>> arena one can photograph people as they are. The resulting
>>>>> photographs
>>>>> can be shown in the context of "art" providing they are not
>>>>> derogatory. And in my book, providing you do not make money off of
>>>>> the
>>>>> print. Salgado's images can seel for 10K a pop. I doubt the  
>>>>> subject
>>>>> ever recieves anything for the image. Same goes for National
>>>>> Geographic. There are no model release forms there either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Alastair Firkin <afirkin@afirkin.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I must make a quick comment. Leica are calling for MASTER IMAGES
>>>>>> via the LFI. They want M8 DLUX CLUX images only, to "prove" how
>>>>>> good these digital marvels are I suppose. When you read the fine
>>>>>> print, you have to have model releases for anyone in the images:
>>>>>> Well perhaps the photography the M was good for is now no longer
>>>>>> viable. I can't imagine traveling in India and having to get
>>>>>> someone to sign a release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to Paris in September for 3 weeks: one of my aims is to
>>>>>> make some street images, but in France the rules are even
>>>>>> stricter I believe. Certainly 60% of HCB's work would not pass
>>>>>> the Leica Master image requirements. For children you would have
>>>>>> to track down the legal guardians. It seems a bit depressing to
>>>>>> use the M to take only animals, vegetables and minerals, and I
>>>>>> suppose body parts which cannot be identified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alastair
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Eric W.A. Boehm, PhD
>>>>> Assistant Professor, Microbiology
>>>>> Department of Biological Sciences
>>>>> Kean University, 1000 Morris Ave.
>>>>> Union, NJ 07083
>>>>> 908-737-3654
>>>>> eboehm@kean.edu
>>>>>
>>>>> Research Website: http://www.eboehm.com/
>>>>> Photography Website: http://www.streetphotographyisrael.com/
>>>>>
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