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Subject: [Leica] Lecia Street Photography
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue Jul 15 11:40:24 2008
References: <20080712061612.F768CE1@resin18.mta.everyone.net> <FF3B3D7A-D53C-4655-B2FD-25D48B60F716@frozenlight.eu> <79081F91-7F13-4444-880B-2477C3066DE9@cox.net> <A22689D2-1293-4D97-B97D-42E99FEB424B@frozenlight.eu> <023a01c8e6a7$9e4ef240$daecd6c0$@net>

On Jul 15, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Jim Shulman wrote:

> It's not that you don't have the balls, just that you'd prefer to  
> retain
> them.

I've never run into a parisan couple on the street that wouldn't put  
their passion on hold, to sign a consent...




;-)  ;-)


Steve


>
>
> Jim Shulman
> Bryn Mawr, PA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+jshul=comcast.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+jshul=comcast.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of  
> Nathan
> Wajsman
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:31 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Lecia Street Photography
>
> I am not sure I agree, Steve. First of all, I do not have the balls to
> interrupt a passionate couple to request a picture. The whole point of
> these is that the couples are absorbed in each other, not the
> photographer.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>
> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:44 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>
>>> Illegal Paris images here:
>>>
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/15.jpg
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2003/2003_30alt4.jpg
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt4.jpg
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt6.jpg
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt8.jpg
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt9.jpg
>>>
>>> I am happy to break French laws every time I am in France. So far
>>> the gendarmerie have not come after my web sites...
>>
>>
>> not bad Nathan, but IF you had gotten a signed nonsent for these,
>>
>> not only would they have been legal images, they would have been
>> much, much better...
>>
>> especially since in many of these photos,  the subjects aren't even
>> looking at you...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>
>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Alastair Firkin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dodge the trouble, smile and keep shooting: that will be my plan
>>>> in Paris. 3 weeks to capture a brief glimpse of life in 2008. It
>>>> will be fun. I don't expect to upset anyone, but I do believe in
>>>> street photography as a way to record the life we lead.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Alastair
>>>>
>>>> --- eboehmjr@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: "Eric Boehm, Jr" <eboehmjr@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Lecia Street Photography
>>>> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:30:11 -0400
>>>>
>>>> Alastair,
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, a sad state of affairs. My understanding is that in a  
>>>> public
>>>> arena one can photograph people as they are. The resulting
>>>> photographs
>>>> can be shown in the context of "art" providing they are not
>>>> derogatory. And in my book, providing you do not make money off of
>>>> the
>>>> print. Salgado's images can seel for 10K a pop. I doubt the subject
>>>> ever recieves anything for the image. Same goes for National
>>>> Geographic. There are no model release forms there either.
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Alastair Firkin <afirkin@afirkin.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I must make a quick comment. Leica are calling for MASTER IMAGES
>>>>> via the LFI. They want M8 DLUX CLUX images only, to "prove" how
>>>>> good these digital marvels are I suppose. When you read the fine
>>>>> print, you have to have model releases for anyone in the images:
>>>>> Well perhaps the photography the M was good for is now no longer
>>>>> viable. I can't imagine traveling in India and having to get
>>>>> someone to sign a release.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to Paris in September for 3 weeks: one of my aims is to
>>>>> make some street images, but in France the rules are even
>>>>> stricter I believe. Certainly 60% of HCB's work would not pass
>>>>> the Leica Master image requirements. For children you would have
>>>>> to track down the legal guardians. It seems a bit depressing to
>>>>> use the M to take only animals, vegetables and minerals, and I
>>>>> suppose body parts which cannot be identified.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Alastair
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Eric W.A. Boehm, PhD
>>>> Assistant Professor, Microbiology
>>>> Department of Biological Sciences
>>>> Kean University, 1000 Morris Ave.
>>>> Union, NJ 07083
>>>> 908-737-3654
>>>> eboehm@kean.edu
>>>>
>>>> Research Website: http://www.eboehm.com/
>>>> Photography Website: http://www.streetphotographyisrael.com/
>>>>
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Replies: Reply from kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] Lecia Street Photography)
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Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Lecia Street Photography)
Message from kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] Lecia Street Photography)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Lecia Street Photography)
Message from jshul at comcast.net (Jim Shulman) ([Leica] Lecia Street Photography)