[Leica] Another Door Closed to Photography

[kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)]

On Jul 11, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Ted Grant wrote:

> Hell another door closed to photography?
>
> You guys don't have any idea how bad it is in documentary  
> photography of the
> world around us even when we're shooting the wonderful people who do
> everything there is possible to help the down trodden, helpless, ill  
> and
> sick!!
>
> Not long ago I shot two wonderful books about doctors, nurses and care
> givers doing their thing in helping folks survive to a better life,  
> whatever
> the illness or repair job.
>
> I recently started to do a new level of what I considered to be the  
> next
> generation of these same people. Seemed simple enough, "take  
> pictures of
> them learning their skills to help the ill and less unfortunate."
>
> GUESS WHAT?
>
> I was required to ask each and everyone of these "students if they  
> wanted to
> have their pictures taken? While learning how to be helpful to human  
> kind?"
> Did I have their signed permission in writing? And without question,  
> what
> was the final use of the photography and did I have permission of  
> everyone.
> including the unconscious patient whom you couldn't see in any shape  
> or form
> other than a "lump on the table" permission? Their mothers wouldn't  
> know who
> it was!!!
>
> Here I am a photojournalist with more than a half century experience  
> and a
> photo collection in the National Archives of Canada of 280,000  
> images in a
> collection of how "we lived and survived the world about us" all in  
> a manner
> of real life as it was possible under the circumstance.
>
> TODAY?
>
> Damn Mickey mouse worry warts who are more concerned about their  
> asses,
> jobs, and insurance litigation

yes Ted...scary and entirely true !

people afraid to make a decision, including top doctors and  
administartors, who don't want to be left "holding the bag"...

so they "pass it up the chain of command..."

then they are surprised when they are stripped of all power to make  
any decisions...

and the chain of command results in some top administrator/and lawyer  
who says (and entirely predictably)

well... "just to be safe"  we better get...

blah, blah, blah...


Steve




> than illustrating what life is truly like in
> absolute honest injun what it's really like image of today! Who to  
> blame?
>
> I don't know and quite frankly I have come to a point where I don't  
> really
> care! Nor give a damn! The losers?
>
> The people of the future! Those who could learn what it was like as we
> learned what our forefathers and foremothers went through during  
> their and
> our earlier times.
>
> It truly is a shame because of, in most cases some mickey mouse two  
> bit ass
> hole moron who wants to make money, trouble or has caused trouble  
> over a
> nothing event.
>
> We as real photojournalists are being straddled with this crap of  
> paper work
> and litigation while documenting the world of today simply because  
> of people
> who figure they can make "money" through a lawyer!
>
> Sorry I sound like I'm pissed off! I am! Damn real world of today!!!!!
>
> ted
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Lottermoser George
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:52 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another Door Closed to Photography
>
>
>
> We (at least the younger among us) may very well see the day
>
> when street photographers will require a permit and show just cause.
>
>
>
> One's only hope in these times is to hone one's people skills
>
> and develop trusting relationships in those places we wish apply or
>
> craft.
>
>
>
> 'tis a very sad time.
>
>
>
> I know one very fine photographer who's given up the craft due to
>
> lack of access
>
> various harassments by official and pseudo-official individuals, as
>
> well as many state and national parks now requiring permits (if
>
> you're a professional).
>
>
>
> Fond regards,
>
> George
>
>
>
> george@imagist.com
>
> http://www.imagist.com
>
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2008, at 10:23 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>
>
>
>> LUGGERS,
>
>>
>
>> I dropped by our local Burger King tonight to grab some sandwiches
>
>> and noticed a new sticker on both the outside and inside of the
>
>> entry door.  It said, "No Videotaping or Photography Permitted".
>
>> This was apparently added recently.  While I have never seen an
>
>> occasion necessitating photographs there, I suspect it is posted
>
>> because they have a separate play area for small children, and
>
>> parents are getting very sensitive about photos of their kids.
>
>>
>
>> Jim Nichols
>
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>
>>
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