[Leica] IMG: OT Equip - Lime Kiln Park

[rgacpa at yahoo.com (Bob Adler)]

Agree, and thanks Mark. I think not using the sharpening plugin greatly 
reduced the "crunchiness" Geoff observed and other artifacts you observed 
once I took a closer look (I know I originally said I didn't see much 
difference, but I hadn't gone through them all).
Bob

?Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.raflexions.com



----- Original Message ----
From: Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:05:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: OT Equip - Lime Kiln Park

Geoff Zeiss glass and Hassy's are very much part of my work Flo over the
years I've been on the HUG for a dozen years the newer version now and I'm
used to seeing them on the Web from other people but when you look at your
monitor at a rock in a stream and it jumps up and bites your earlobe off you
know you are looking at something else than normal sprinklings of unsharp
mask - and I was right.
Its easy to get overly enthused with this kind of stuff and that's why we
show are stuff to other people.



mark@rabinergroup.com
Mark William Rabiner



> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:10:45 +1000
> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] IMG: OT Equip - Lime Kiln Park
> 
> Mark, I only can observe any 'crunchiness' in the kiln interior two shots
> (which have lots of sharp edges). The first five especially are delicious
> medium format Velvia to my eye. It may be too that the original superb
> resolution (plus the contrasty medium) as well as the scanner all 
> contribute
> to so much minute detail that it needs managing. That's a quality problem 
> to
> have, right there. Did you notice how many of these are the full frame with
> no crop at all, too? Bob has the same sharpening regime as I do, so maybe
> that?s why it appeals to me! Anyhoo it is very much more subtle and 
> superior
> to anything easily achieved with unsharp mask. When you get down to these
> low resolution web versions the effect is more distinct, certainly. 
> Actually
> you can vary that too with choice of edge selection, opacity of that
> adjusting layer and original capture sharpening routine. Sort of involves a
> call on how much impact you want on the web versions too. Holding prints in
> your hands will always be a different story, as you know.
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: OT Equip - Lime Kiln Park
> 
> It does look like instead of unsharp mask you are using a new third party
> high tech algorithm rich borrowed from the CGI folks SHARPENING FROM 
> HELL!!!
> AND LOTS OF IT!!! For a whole new look.
> I'd move back from it by half or two thirds.
> And would love to see the stuff as well from the FP4.
> Again less jacked up.
> 
> 
> 
> mark@rabinergroup.com
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Bob Adler <rgacpa@yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:59:24 -0700 (PDT)
>> To: Leica Enthusiasts Group <leica@freelists.org>, Leica Users Group
>> <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: OT Equip - Lime Kiln Park
>> 
>> After?Yosemite?in April/May, attention turned back to?Big Sur. About
> an?hour
>> south of the town?of Big Sur is a?California State Park, Lime Kiln. If you
>> drive in and?walk down to the ocean, it's completely uninspiring.?The
> first
>> time we did that and just got back in the vehicle and continued on.
>> ?
>> Next time, on a tip from a co-worker, we went the other way, deep into a
>> beautiful redwood forest with at least 3 major streams. One ends at a 100
> foot
>> high waterfall which I didn't shoot. It's not a regular waterfall with a
>> couple of torrents showering down; it has about 100 little falls that fan
> out
>> from the top so the bottom of the falls is as wide as the falls are high.
> Jim
>> Brick has some good shots of it, after climbing like a mountain goat which
> I
>> wasn't about to do.
>> ?
>> Another stream goes up to the lime kilns. These are mammoth kilns built in
> the
>> late 1800s to extract lime from the limestone. There are?3 of them, each
> about
>> 30 - 40 feet high; steel turrets falling apart in these beautiful
> overgrown
>> redwood forests. How they built these monstrosities way up on this hill in
> the
>> middle of nowhere and how they got the lime stones up and resultant lime
> back
>> down is?beyond me.
>> ?
>> The third major stream is just a beautiful walk going nowhere; my kind of
>> place...
>> ?
>> http://www.raflexions.com/LKP
>> ?
>> Hope you enjoy?these. Certainly worth a walk?if you're ever in the area,
>> Bob
>> ?
>> P.S. - Tech stuff: Hasselblad (flex and 203), Velvia 50 and FP4 taken with
>> various combinations of apprx. 40lbs of gear muled around on my back...
>> ?Bob Adler
>> Palo Alto, CA
>> http://www.raflexions.com
>> 
>> 
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