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Subject: [Leica] How IR filters affect M8 B&W
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue Jun 17 16:47:46 2008
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On Jun 17, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

> Steve, we look forward to seeing results from your testing.

Happy to share my images with you Hops, though my testing in a  
rigorous,  proper scientific way is not too likely...

I know what that involves to do it right, and I don't want to spend my  
time that way...

however, always putting the equipment to good use, taking pictures,  
evaluating results and outcomes, learning from that, making changes...

that I will do...

Come to think of it, that's an experiment too, long tried in nature,   
it worked fine...it's called evolution...


Steve



> Peter's examples
> are certainly a worst case. If you are querying sharpness as well as  
> tonal
> shift, you will be considering other factors too, in order to reduce
> variables (DoF, focus accuracy, focal distance, focus shift, camera  
> and
> subject movement, aberration level at large apertures with different
> lenses). I just shot some available light family shots. Black T shirts
> against black cloth partitions under mixed artificial light. The  
> well known
> magenta shift makes a marked difference in tonality of the blacks  
> after BW
> conversion (and some to the skin tones). Similar but less predictable
> effects on various metal or plastic objects (it was an invention  
> convention
> for school kids). Shots made experimentally removing the filter were
> noticeably degraded.
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] How IR filters affect M8 B&W
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2008, at 7:34 AM, Tina Manley wrote:
>
>> At 02:20 AM 6/17/2008, you wrote:
>>> All other things being equal, I prefer to use the IR filter while
>>> shooting B&W with the M8.  However, I have noticed that you can
>>> often gain a half stop more exposure without the filter, especially
>>> in reddish tungsten light.  So if I was shooting at 1/15 or slower,
>>> I might remove the IR filter, figuring that the half-stop faster
>>> shutter speed I'd get might gain me more in clarity than the IR
>>> smearing would take away.
>>>
>>> --Peter
>>
>> That's very helpful, Peter, and a greater difference than I thought
>> it would be.  Guess I need to get a couple more filter sizes :-(
>
>
>  my thoughts too Tina but, I am not totally convinced yet, but
> almost...just need to see this reproduced and carried a bit further,
>
> Steve
>>
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> Tina Manley
>> www.tinamanley.com
>>
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Replies: Reply from tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant) ([Leica] Another LEICA story)
In reply to: Message from pklein at 2alpha.net (Peter Klein) ([Leica] How IR filters affect M8 B&W)
Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] How IR filters affect M8 B&W)
Message from kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] How IR filters affect M8 B&W)
Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] How IR filters affect M8 B&W)