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Subject: [Leica] Orphan Works
From: s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan dimitrov)
Date: Mon May 12 06:45:40 2008
References: <200805112042.m4BKfstX097500@server1.waverley.reid.org> <AA451126-D8F6-44D9-804B-9D086BB7367A@netvigator.com> <F19D4EF0-CED5-4112-80B2-BF6F0842A7E1@frozenlight.eu> <200805120854.AQK03037@rg5.comporium.net> <EC685E55-F3BC-49F6-9B45-5ED34379EB3D@frozenlight.eu> <C3375069-4604-4810-9CD2-F57FDC7D029D@charter.net> <39330D0E-74AD-46DC-B0C8-53C13AA23A10@frozenlight.eu>

Actually, I count on our boys and girls in the DC playpen to watch  
out for overseas corporate interests. They only care if it becomes a  
nuisance to them.
s.d.

On May 12, 2008, at 6:35 AM, Nathan wrote:

> Let's be realistic, Slobodan. In the grand scheme of things of  
> international trade issues, this issue is not even on the radar  
> screen. The only people who are excited about it are we  
> photographers and perhaps a subset of the intellectual property  
> community. In fact, I live in the IP world now, since I now work at  
> the EU equivalent of the US trademark office. There is actually a  
> very widely read blog run by some UK IP lawyers (http:// 
> ipkitten.blogspot.com/) on which I will post about this issue.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> On 12-mei-2008, at 15:26, slobodan dimitrov wrote:
>
>> If they see that it might become an international trade liability,  
>> it could affect how they would vote.
>> s.d.
>>
>>
>> On May 12, 2008, at 6:18 AM, Nathan wrote:
>>
>>> Right Tina, I did read the section. My point is that none of  
>>> those entities or persons has any influence on whether or not the  
>>> bill is passed. Perhaps people like the US Trade Representative  
>>> or the Undersec'y for Economic Affairs might have had some impact  
>>> during the committee process but if I understand things  
>>> correctly, we are well beyond that stage now and so the only  
>>> people worth trying to influence are the individual members of  
>>> Congress who are to vote on the bills--and those people are only  
>>> influenced by their constituents (and of course lobbyists etc.).  
>>> Certainly not by foreign photographers.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> On 12-mei-2008, at 10:54, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>
>>>> At 01:12 AM 5/12/2008, you wrote:
>>>>> Unfortunately, I very much doubt that letters/e-mails/faxes from
>>>>> outside the USA will make the slightest bit of difference, and
>>>>> therefore I will not bother. Why? Very simple: the people who  
>>>>> have to
>>>>> make the decision on this law are the members of Congress, and  
>>>>> they
>>>>> only care about what the people who vote for them think. Since  
>>>>> people
>>>>> who reside outside the USA do not vote in congressional elections
>>>>> (even those who are US citizens), their opinion matters not one  
>>>>> bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>
>>>> http://www.illustratorspartnership.org/01_topics/article.php? 
>>>> searchterm=00267
>>>>
>>>> The International letters do not go to Congress.  They go to:
>>>>
>>>> Ambassador Susan C. Schwab
>>>> Office of the United States Trade Representative
>>>> 600 17th Street, N.W.
>>>> Washington, DC 20508
>>>> United States of America
>>>> FAX: 001 (202) 395-4549
>>>> (Telephone: (202) 395-3000)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marybeth Peters
>>>> Register of Copyrights
>>>> U.S. Copyright Office
>>>> 101 Independence Ave. S.E.
>>>> Washington, D.C. 20559-6000
>>>> United States of America
>>>> FAX: 001 (202) 707-8366
>>>> (Telephone: (202) 707-5959)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jon W. Dudas
>>>> Director
>>>> United States Patent & Trademark Office
>>>> P.O. 1450
>>>> Alexandria, VA 22313-1450
>>>> United States of America
>>>> FAX: 001 (571) 273-8300
>>>> (Telephone: (800) 786-9199)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reuben Jeffrey III
>>>> Under Secretary for Economic, Energy and Agricultural Affairs
>>>> U.S. Department of State
>>>> 2201 C Street NW
>>>> Washington, DC 20520
>>>> United States of America
>>>> FAX: 001 (202) 647-9763
>>>> (Telephone: (202) 647-7575)
>>>>
>>>> This bill will affect everybody's work, whether you live in the  
>>>> USA or not.
>>>>
>>>> TIna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>
> Book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/128276
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman
> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>
>
>
>
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In reply to: Message from cummer at netvigator.com (Howard Cummer) ([Leica] Orphan Works)
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