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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Inside a B-17 (attention WWII buffs)
From: bjq1 at mac.com (Bernard Quinn)
Date: Sun Feb 17 19:14:26 2008
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20080216130406.00bcae50@mail.2alpha.com>

Truly Excellent!

Barney

On Feb 16, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Peter Klein wrote:

> While on vacation in southern California, I visited the Palm  
> Springs Air museum.  They had a still-flyable B-17 on exhibit, and  
> I took a tour of it.  I was able to crawl around inside and get  
> some decent shots.  Since I know there are a lot of WWII buffs on  
> the list, I thought I'd share.
>
> I must say that experiencing this airplane from the inside left me  
> very moved, and with an even greater appreciation for "the greatest  
> generation."  It really brought home what flying must have been  
> like at that time.  No pressurization, no cabin heating.  Much of  
> the control is via cables attached to various levers that the  
> pilots pull. Your body is physically part of the aircraft. At  
> around 30,000 feet, air is unbreathable, and it's about 40 degrees  
> below zero (F or C, take your pick). You wear an oxygen mask, plug  
> your electrically-heated long underwear to a power jack at your  
> station, and hope the other side doesn't shoot out your #2 engine,  
> which has the generator.  You're flying at 200-300 mph, the  
> fighters opposing you are faster, and your guns are all manually  
> aimed.
>
> The B-17 from outside:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002646- 
> prf_001.jpg.html
>
> Bombardier's station, equipped with the famous Norden bombsight.  
> The latter was a state-of-the art optical device, equipped with  
> gyroscopes and a mechanical analog computer.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002649- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> Cockpit:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002651- 
> prf.jpg.html
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002654- 
> prf.jpg.html
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002657- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> Bomb bay (I could just about squeeze through here sideways):
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002661- 
> prf.jpg.html
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002662- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> Radio operator's station:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002663- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> I actually knew these radio receivers.  We used to convert them  
> into cheap ham radios in the 60s:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002664- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> Transmitters.  You can see some of the airplane's control cables  
> threaded through the ribs of the airframe on the upper right.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002665- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> Side machine gun:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002668- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> Middle of the aircraft, looking towards the front.  You can see two  
> side machine guns and the top of the ball turret gunner's station  
> that protruded from the underbelly of the aircraft.  My guide is  
> gesturing to another guest in the background.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002674- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> Tail gunner's station.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002678- 
> prf.jpg.html
> Of course, it made me think of "Tail Gunner Joe." So in the spirit  
> of extreme irony. . .
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002679- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> Photo taken lying on my back on the tarmac, looking up into the  
> open bomb bay:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002681- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> More outside views of the plane:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002686- 
> prf.jpg.html
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002692- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> My guide (he was from Brooklyn, yuh know whaddeyemean?)  Great guy!
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002687- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> This propeller was on a different aircraft, but I like it:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002694- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> Cautionary sign inside the museum:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/palmsprings/L1002696- 
> prf.jpg.html
>
> These are records, not art. It was a very high contrast situation,  
> and some blown highlights were unavoidable to keep detail in the  
> interior. M8, mostly with 28/3.5 V/C Skopar, a few with the 35/2  
> Summicron v.4.
>
> --Peter
>
>
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