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Subject: [Leica] Capa or here we go again
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Tue Jan 29 03:12:00 2008
References: <C3C36FE2.275D7%bd@bdcolenphoto.com> <CA2D064D-62B4-46D9-9557-A1B79ECD8AAD@charter.net> <479E2A39.8000102@waltjohnson.com> <BF352E9A-AEBE-457A-B346-1D1919C9A4AB@charter.net>

Hell, I saw him and the Mrs. at Hue in 1966. He was wearing a black 
flight suit with a purple scarf..  A ver photogenic guy,wished I'd had a 
Leica then. :-)

slobodan dimitrov wrote:
> No. But I was tempted to buy a bottle of beer from former Prime 
> Minister Ky at his liquor store in Southern California.
> s.d.
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Walt Johnson wrote:
>
> Did you every eat in his D.C. restaurant?
>
> slobodan dimitrov wrote:
>> It is, Lt. Colonel Nguyen Ngoc Loan.
>>
>> Photographers should leave the writing of history to historians, and 
>> then quote them.
>>
>> Journalist, on the other hand, should leave analysis to historians, 
>> as the also lack the foundational background to put two and two 
>> together.
>> s.d.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:41 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:
>>
>> Good Lord, Howard - What is so improbable that someone might shoot two
>> people dying on approximately the same spot if the photographer was 
>> crouched
>> nearby, camera pointed toward the spot?
>>
>> I think what puzzles me the most about all this is not whether or not 
>> it is
>> real, but the seeming compulsion on the part of some to insist that 
>> it is
>> not.
>>
>> How is it that Eddie Adams managed to push his shutter release at the
>> precise instant the Gen. Lon's bullet entered the skull of the VC 
>> captive?
>> Was that execution staged for Adams? Was he complicit in it?
>>
>> How did Bob Jackson happen to be in precisely the right position to 
>> get that
>> astounding photo of Jack Ruby shooting Oswald? Was he tipped ahead 
>> that the
>> shooting would take place?
>>
>> I don't think anyone asks those questions, yet, if one believes that
>> uncritical "acceptance of this most improbable coincidence is 
>> inadequate,
>>> irresponsible journalism" is the only way to view the possibility 
>>> that Capa
>> shot - sorry - two people on the same spot, how can one deal with 
>> those other
>> two astounding coincidences?
>>
>> B. D.
>>
>>
>> On 1/28/08 11:21 AM, "Walt Johnson" <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Howard
>>>
>>> I knew some good would come from my recent generosity in the collection
>>> plate. Even the damn clouds are in identical formations. Too much
>>> cogitation and too little evidence. Any one who has worked an interview
>>> knows the ease of proving their original point of view. Especially, 
>>> when
>>> dealing with such antiquities. Where the hell are Scully and Mulder 
>>> when
>>> we need them? :-)
>>>
>>> Walt
>>>
>>> Howard Ritter wrote:
>>>> Strange that the the writer's painstaking research and cogitation
>>>> weren't accompanied by even a passing question about how ONE
>>>> photographer happened to snap the shutter at the moments of the deaths
>>>> of TWO different soldiers within a few minutes at the VERY SAME SPOT
>>>> on a hillside. Not a word of skepticism on this point! Uncritical
>>>> acceptance of this most improbable coincidence is inadequate,
>>>> irresponsible journalism.
>>>>
>>>> To my mind, the second and lesser-known photograph is prima facie
>>>> evidence of several iterations of a staging. Unfortunately, this piece
>>>> does nothing to resolve the controversy.
>>>>
>>>> --howard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 27, 2008, at 4:31 AM, Tarek Charara wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There was this essay posted here a few months ago:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> For whatever it's worth... :^)
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best from the south of France!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tarek
>>>>
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Replies: Reply from s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan dimitrov) ([Leica] Capa or here we go again)
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