[Leica] M8 Question_Robert

[robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)]

Frank,

All of these considerations you raise are pertinent, but I was, I hope, 
asking for a much simpler comparison:    how does a 24x36 print made from an 
M8 image look in comparison with a 30x30 print made from a Hasselblad C41 
negative.   The prints I have made are lightjet prints on Kodak Endura 
paper.   I do the scans on an Epson 4870 at 4800 dpi.

Robert

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i@earthlink.net>
To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] M8 Question_Robert


> If you wish to compare 2 different lenses/films/cars/dishwashers/etc.  you
> need to use identical roads and conditions/dirty dishes/images.  Using
> different images does not allow comparison, technically.
>
> The original poster wanted to know if the Hasselblad images from film ( E6
> or C41????) would be equivalent to an M8 when a print is made.  No print?
> No comparison is possible.  Because that was what the poster asked as the
> comparison vehicle....  4x6 inch prints?  Nope.  He wanted something like
> 30x30 for both.  JPG's?  You are kidding..... not even a remote 
> possibility
> of comparison.
>
> Jim Brick ( who I believe is no longer a LUG member ) uses a Hasselblad. 
> I
> think Ken Frasier also uses the Hasselblad..... Alastair Firkin also.  Do
> any of them have a M8?  I do not think Jim has, although he does 30x30
> prints from his Hasselblad.
>
> Who and what will do the scan of the Hasselblad E6/C41?  A ( Over $25K) 
> drum
> scanner?  Epson $500 scanner?  Who is doing the post processing?  How much
> is allowed?  How much human capability is allowed?  What kind of printer
> driver?  Tuned for what?
>
> Who or what is doing the comparison?  What criteria?  How many samples?
>
> I hope I am conveying the difficulty of answering this question......with
> technical correctness.
>
> Anyone can take any picture they want and derive any comparison they
> wish.... after all, it is a free country.  But if you want facts to make 
> an
> unbiased comparison, it is exceedingly difficult.
>
> I stick by my response.. using digital printing techniques makes, in the
> limit,  a $300 P+S camera almost as capable as a $5K Leica M8.  And
> certainly, a Hasselblad image will probably look as good as a M8.  The
> digital printer is the item that flattens the playing field.
>
> Frank Filippone
> red735i@earthlink.net
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