Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/12/09

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Subject: [Leica] RAW archiving AND Lightroom
From: afirkin at afirkin.com (afirkin@afirkin.com)
Date: Sun Dec 9 17:21:48 2007

Can't speak for the NEF files, but it works fine with Olympus (and LEica 
DNG) I got LR because aperture and iView could not handle DNG and i
view lost the ability to handle raw Olyp format somehow (bought out by MS 
was my suspicion). As you say, its a very fast moving target. Good luck
--- dlridings@gmail.com wrote:

From: "Daniel Ridings" <dlridings@gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] RAW archiving AND Lightroom
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:45:10 +0100

Well ... I figured out my LightRoom problem.

I had saved my files in the archive that Lightroom works with
directly. This time I didn't let Lightroom convert them to DNG files.

I've always felt a bit suspicious about DNG files.

Ok ... their documented.

Ok ... NEF files, by implication, are not documented.

And ...

I am supposed to believe that Adobe can extract all possible
information (lossless conversion) from NEF to DNG when NEF is not
documented? Come on now. That's marketing by Adobe, not a question of
documentation or not.

Anyway. If you use Adobe's Lightroom you simply have to convert to their 
format.

I re-installed LIghtroom with the repair option.

I rebooted.

I uninstalled LIghtroom completely.

All to no avail. Lightroom was freezing everytime I tried to go near
the Slideshow or Web tabs and most of the times when I tried to go
from Library to Develop.

So I renamed my archive where all of the NEF files were and forced
Lightroom to start from scratch.

I re-imported everything and allowed Lightroom to convert from NEF to DNG.

This time everything works.

Adobe Lightroom can, as it seems, not work with Nikon raw files. It
wants to convert (and lose information) to its own DNG format. Then it
works.

Digital photography is not a mature working tool, it is a moving target.

Daniel





On Dec 9, 2007 9:43 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand@gmail.com> wrote:
> Surely Adobe is trying to pull a Microsoft on us? Surely Nikon & Canon have
> less incentive to do so?
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2007 12:51 PM, Brian Reid <reid@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> wrote:
>
> > DNG is documented.
> >
> >
> > > Whyconvert to DNG? Keep the RAW files and a couple of copies of the
> > > converter software of choice backed up in removable hard drives.. I
> > presume
> > > that Nikon and Canon will at least survive as long as Adobe - I also
> > trust
> > > them far more than I trust Adobe in all this.
> >
> >
> >
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