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Subject: [Leica] Armed America in England
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Mon Oct 15 15:58:56 2007
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Interesting introductory essay to Volume 2!

We have similar rights, not written of course, but we don't feel the need to
carry guns for the most part. Carrying one in public can get you shot by 
police
marksmen. As Wilde might have said "Two countries divided by a common 
culture.."

Peter Dzwig

Kyle Cassidy wrote:
> I suspect that this is largely due to cross purposes as to a solution.
> Everybody sees the problem: "People are shooting people in the streets.
> America has a high murder rate." But Americans find it very difficult to
> agree on a solution -- "build more jails"? "invest in pre-school
> programs"? "outlaw gay marriage"? "give more money to the poor"?
> "universal health care"? "stiffer penalties for drugs"? "a higher
> minimum wage"? "a lower minimum wage"? -- these are all suggestions that
> people have, and feel strongly about. I've learned over the past couple
> of years that most people seem to agree on what the problem is, but have
> vehimently differing opinions about what should be done about it. 
> 
> As an anecdotal example -- the almost-mayor-elect in my fair city has
> proposed that police be able to "stop and frisk" people who look
> suspicious. This may indeed get a lot of guns off the street, so many
> people are in favor of it -- but on the other hand, the Constitution
> guarrenttees "The right of the people to be secure in their persons,
> houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,
> "
> 
> So what's the solution? If anything, while working on this project, I've
> realized the answer is very complex. And so is getting people to agree,
> even if we had "the answer" on a notecard for all to see.
> 
> What's the role of photography in this? To keep people informed about
> problems, solutions, life, truth, fiction ... we all have a big role to
> play in the drama of violence on Earth.
> 
> kc
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Peter Dzwig <pdzwig@summaventures.com>
>>
>> What everyone (OK, most people) over here don't understand - I'll put
> that more strongly - 
>> FAIL to understand - is why the US doesn't identify and address the
> root causes of the 
>> issues which lead to violence and address them. Doing so might might
>>
>> After all the rest of the world doesn't have anything like the level of
> ownership outside 
>> war zones.
> 
> 
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