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Subject: [Leica] R lens comparison
From: tomschofield at comcast.net (Tom Schofield)
Date: Tue Sep 25 15:27:47 2007
References: <092520071851.3478.46F958AF0005D0C200000D96219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF970A9D9F9A0B9D09@mchsi.com>

Just to add a few more split hairs, I understood the 16 and 24mm  
lenses were a Minolta design, not made by Minolta.  Any owners out  
there who can read the "Made In ___" script?

Tom


On Sep 25, 2007, at 11:51 AM, grduprey@mchsi.com wrote:

> Mark,
>
> I know only one made by Sigma, the 28~70 Vario Elmar R.  I have a  
> copy, decent optics, but poor mechanicals, as my early copy has  
> gotten sloppy over the years.  There was a rumor that Zeiss took  
> over this one when they updated it, but not sure if true.
>
> Minlota made the early zooms, and at least one WA, the 24 Elmarit  
> R.  Which by the way is the same lens currently on the books,  
> although Leica has been making it for sometime, and several of the  
> elements have been replaced by newer glasses, due to older glass  
> being no longer made.  I have one of these and it performs  
> exceptionaly well.  I had heard at one time, that Minolta only  
> provided the glass, and Leica did all the assembly from the very  
> beginning.  Can't verify this, just what I had heard.
>
> You forgot Kyocera, who makes/made the 80 ~ 200 f4 Vario Elmar R.   
> This lens is exceptional in performance.  I guess Leica is making  
> this one now, since Kyocera has gotten out of the optics business.   
> Don't know if they made any other lenses though, Doug?
>
> Gene
>
>
> -------------- Original message from Mark Rabiner  
> <mark@rabinergroup.com>: --------------
>
>
>>> Jack,
>>>
>>> Part of the reason for the lower prices of R lenses, is that over  
>>> the years,
>>> the R line has been somewhat of the Black Sheep or Unwanted  
>>> Cousin to the M
>>> line. Unfortunate for the popularity of the R system, but great  
>>> for those of
>>> us who use it when it comes to used lens prices.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>
>> I think this is totally wrong and its my understanding that there  
>> have been
>> extended times that the R system supported the M system and that only
>> recently has the M line swung back.
>> The R8 and 9 are brilliant cameras.
>> Innovative.
>> Not boring.
>> I want one.
>> But need one which shoots digital film.
>> I think there will be one very very soon.
>> Like tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> There are categories of R glass.
>> Some made by Minolta. Not too noteworthy.
>> Some made by Sigma. Not too noteworthy.
>> Some made or designed by Schneider-Kreuznach.
>> Real mouth watering in my opinion.
>> And some made by Leica.
>> Usually very Leica like.
>> considering
>>
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> rabinergroup.com
>>
>>
>>
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