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Subject: [Leica] Re: Scanning Tri-X
From: jhnichols at bellsouth.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Sat Aug 18 08:51:29 2007
References: <200708181146.l7IBkIR4058154@server1.waverley.reid.org> <DCF8EF99-5820-4F65-887F-6E12BD1D6B21@optonline.net>

Larry,

Even with my ancient Konica Minolta Dimage Scan Dual II, Tri-X scans better 
than the other B&W films that I have used.  I see no problems, but I am only 
scanning at 2820, not 4000.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lawrence Zeitlin" <lrzeitlin@optonline.net>
To: <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 9:50 AM
Subject: [Leica] Re: Scanning Tri-X


> On another list someone complained about the "posterization" and  aliasing 
> encountered in scanning Tri-X film. Here is the quote:
>
> "both my 2880ppi and 4000ppi
> film scanners posterize my Tri-X negatives... which
> makes sense.  there is also nothing you can do to
> remove sampling errors after you scan.  My early
> analysis of Tri-X grain showed that it has strong
> frequency content around 4000ppi so when my scanners
> sample at around half the Nyquist frequency the
> aliasing is just a fact of life.  With finer grained
> films, the grain is still aliased, BUT since the
> signal to noise ratio is so much higher the actual
> useful *image* data is not lost and *luckily* the new
> aliased *grain*, while not an accurate representation
> of the original, is still aesthetically pleasing."
>
> Can someone explain what he means in plain language?  I've scanned 
> hundreds of Tri-X negatives with my Minolta Dimage 5400 scanner at 
> 4000ppi, and, apart from the inevitable dust spots on poorly stored 
> negatives, I have yet to see what he means. If there is a problem, is  the 
> scanner software correcting it automatically?
>
> Larry Z
>
>
>
>
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