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Subject: [Leica] Armed *White* America?
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Thu Aug 9 09:06:01 2007
References: <200708090036.l790aeOb075113@dragonsgate2.imagecraft.com> <0JMH00M82LJUFSQ1@l-daemon>

Ted,
I am afraid you are the one talking tripe on this one. Richard has every
legitimate right to ask the question he did.
Cheers
Jayanand

On 8/9/07, Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Richard offered:
>
> Subject: [Leica] Armed *White* America?
>
>
>
> >>>>>As much as I love Kyle's stuff and writing, I won't be buying the
>
> book. No need to explain or defend etc.
>
>
>
> For those with the book though, or Kyle our man if you are not too
>
> busy signing autographs, I note that the photo excerpts have one
>
> African American and one woman that appears to be Asian descended.
>
> Armed White America? What is the spread in the book like?<<<<,
>
>
>
> Richard for crying out loud!
>
> Do you know how stupid this is? Dumb ass stupid, that's what!!
>
>
>
> Simply because Kyle didn't start out to shoot a book representing every
> colour in the rainbow nor ethnic cross section!! Get real! When a book
> idea
> like this is born it's not to represent all the colours in the rainbow,
> but
> about people who volunteer their services to be photographed for a
> potential
> book about guns and folks who own them!
>
>
>
> This kind of tripe isn't any different than when Sandy Carter and I had
> completed our book about women in medicine and the shooting was finished
> after nearly a year and a half criss crossing North America in many
> hospitals and medical centres. We received this same kind of bull shit
> from
> a writer who was asked to work on the book with us.
>
>
>
> As soon as she brought up.... "where are the handi-capped doctors and
> nurses, there isn't enough colour representation, where are the Asians etc
> etc  every damn BS line one could possibly imagine regarding all the PC
> nonsense. Guess what? She was history instantaneously! Simply because
> there's real life in the world and the way some folks would like to have
> it!
> However, never shall the twain meet as sorry as I am to write that at the
> moment! Maybe after 10 life times of 10 life times of the next 10
> generations of appreciating each others colour in the rainbow simply
> because
> we all give something to this world as messed up as it is!
>
>
>
> Damn Richard and you aren't helping one iota with your silly tripe!
>
>
>
> Right now don't anybody jump in with I'm a bigot! Simply because I've
> always
> been a champion for women to be equally treated and paid as men, colour
> was
> never a thing in my life because of the way I was brought up that we are
> as
> human beings all equal!
>
>
>
> How many of you have ever thought about relating to our human race in this
> fashion?
>
>
>
> Take every colour there is in our rainbow and each one makes a tiny cut in
> a
> finger! SURPISE WE ALL BLEED THE SAME COLOUR! Damn I bet not too many ever
> thought of it in that equaling fashion! So quite frankly that's how I was
> brought up to respect every other human being of different colour or
> religion or whatever they wanted to be! The colour of their blood!
>
> Skin was just the cover colour, not the book inside!
>
>
>
> So when I read someone brings up this drivel about race-colour whatever
> Richard is alluding to, I lose it! Yep the problem is real I don't deny
> that, but what screws it up is when some one brings it up in such a stupid
> manner! It has no relation in this book as first published!
>
>
>
> Certainly where every colour, religion, size, male, female or whatever one
> wishes to call themselves, had the opportunity to VOLUNTEER to be in
> Kyle's
> book! Absolutely no discrimination whatsoever! Merely in the minds of the
> retarded!
>
>
>
> Similarly so in our book, "Women in Medicine." Sandy Carter and I didn't
> go
> around looking for black, coloured, white whatever doctors and nurses came
> in. Simply because we had all kinds of them doing the job of looking after
> all the folks who required medical attention regards of rainbow colour and
> we had them all in our coverage where ever they were giving their care to
> others!! Regardless of whatever or whomever!
>
>
>
> Nor did we look for ... "are you a handi-capped person medical
> professional?" I will say the only single item we watched for was a, are
> you
> ready? "A PREGNANT DOCTOR OR NURSE WHO WAS SHOWING SHE WAS!" That was it!
> :-) Yes and there is one in the book! :-)
>
>
>
> As a matter of fact our wonderful book concept was originally suggested by
> one of the most understanding and professional women doctors or any
> doctor,
> male or female I've ever had the honour and privilege of knowing. And
> Richard if you were astute enough you might buy our book and read this
> doctor's forward! And be surprised!
>
>
>
> A lady of human class beyond real life, as wonderful as an angel could be.
> She just happened to be the Director of Nuclear Cardiology in a big
> hospital
> with a wonderful staff of many colours. And she was black!
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> What I really don't understand is ....
>
> "WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH LEICA PHOTOGRAPHY?" And Richard
> why
> did you bring it up?
>
>
>
> Apart from the fact I'm bagged after being in front of TV cameras all day
> on
> the final shoot for the BRAVO TV programme to be released in October about
> the old guy! :-)  Oh yeah and flaunting the Leica M8 in every scene! :-)
> Awesome! ;-) But dang it sure was and has been fun! :-)
>
>
>
> ted
>
>
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