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Subject: [Leica] Old Cars and Great Monochrome Shots
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Tue Jul 3 03:13:51 2007
References: <971625.43376.qm@web90402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The German market christened the DS "Haifish" (Shark) because of its looks.
Riding in the back of one is not to be recommended after several beers 
and bratwurst, Wallowing is perhaps the most descriptive term for it.
Many years ago we drove from Hannover to Hook of Holland to get the 
ferry across to Harwich in one, very comfortable ride in the front seats 
- on the way back I actually slept through most of Holland. A friend had 
one with holes in the floor, he put a metal mesh over them and filled it 
out with quick setting concrete.
Douglas

Bill Smith wrote:
> A few years ago, it was fairly well- known that the Citroen marque had the 
> highest depreciation rate of any car in the USA market. I expect that's 
> still true. 
>    
>   Bill 
>
> Didier Ludwig <leica@screengang.com> wrote:
>   Found this post now only. Nice pics from Mark. I guess it was not him 
> cropping the wheel away?
>
> I owned a aubergine-black, bordeaux-leathered 1973 Citroen D-Super-5 
> (2300ccm, 5 speeds, 145hp) for more than 10 years and I could tell a lot 
> about these cars. But let's keep it short:
>
> The plus side was:
>
> - exclusive and aerodynamic car design for (then) low budget
> - outstanding technical concept with unique dashboard ergonomy, hydraulic 
> suspension (but ok for front passengers only), movable front lights
> - many well thought details (like special hinge screws for adjusting the 
> rear lid)
>
> The minus side was:
>
> - "french" built quality (pardon, mes amis ;-)
> - rusting issue
> - sea sickness issue for back seat passengers (keep barf bags handy)
> - many not so well thought details (like completely rusted and stuck 
> special hinge screws for adjusting the rear lid)
>
> When I sold it in 1994, I got the double price as when I had bought it 
> (though you could throw out cigarettes through rusted holes in the base 
> plate). In this time most of these models went out of traffic and some 
> spare parts became very sought after. I gave it up because my then 
> girlfriend (now wife) complained about I would spend all weekends 
> tinkering the car... But those who really like to tinker should try a 
> Citroen SM with Maserati engine! That's a threat!
>
> There's a swiss DS specialist, http://citroenrestaurationen.ch/ (which is 
> also very reputed in France and other european countries), which offers to 
> rebuilt and customize old models, with hot zinc galvanized chassis and 
> parts, completely restored engine with catalyzer, plastic body, new 
> leather interior and so on. I've seen some of them, they're better than 
> when they were new. Because they'll never rust again, are lighter, consume 
> less fuel and produce less carbon monoxide. 
>
> Didier
>
>
>
>   
>> In today's online New York Times, some terrific shots by Mark Rabiner of a
>> '67 Citroen DS sedan.
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/01/automobiles/collectibles/01EGO.html
>>
>> Vive le champignon--and the citromatic transmission!
>>
>> Jim Shulman
>> Bryn Mawr, PA
>>     
>
>
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Replies: Reply from leica at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig) ([Leica] Old Cars and Great Monochrome Shots)
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