Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/05/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I meant why is Mr. EXIF saying all those bad things about me. :-) Ted Grant wrote: > Walt asked: > >>> WHAT THE HELL IS EXIF and why is he saying all those bads things about >>> > me? :-P<<<<<<, > > Walt I was agreeing with you! :-) Because you offered: > > >> Walt Johnson noted: >> Could working the darn camera end up as the accomplishment instead of >> making images?<<<<< >> > > It's true as you say above... picture quality is becoming second to knowing > all the stuff on making a digital camera work. Day after day it's the > technical things like .... "my pixels are bigger than yours, I record EXIF > and the list is endless about the camera and their numbers." And nobody is > talking about "shooting well composed, interesting photographs and how to > do > that!" > > That was the point of my lecture...."basically forget the numbers" because > the essence of photography and the taking of good photographs is more > important to successful pictures. Than thinking and talking about how the > digital camera works. > > You did say: > >>> working the darn camera end up as the accomplishment<<<< >>> > > And that's just what's happening because people are thinking about pixels > and making the camera work rather than the visual motivation before them! > > In the lecture I offered... "Forget the numbers, set the camera on > automatic" and have fun taking pictures! Because that's what being a > photographer is all about, whether pro or amateur! And if one isn't having > fun then why the heck spend the money and time doing something that creates > frustration due to the technical aspects of operating a digital camera. > > The surprising thing after the presentation? > > How many came and said, "Thank you for telling me I could use the camera on > "automatic!" I've been so frustrated because I've always been told I should > set it using the settings." > > One sweet little old lady said, "As soon as I get home I'm setting it on > automatic and going to my daughter's to take snaps of my new grandchild!" > Now it can't get any better than that? > > Yep it can. The lady called me on Tuesday and said she'd done it and had > the > best digital snaps she'd ever had! > > So Walt I wasn't against what you were saying, I'm on the same line you > are. > Operating the camera isn't the main thing, it's the finished photograph > that > is." > > ted > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Walt > Johnson > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 8:44 AM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] M8 trials and tribulations? NOW! More techie BS! > > WHAT THE HELL IS EXIF and why is he saying all those bads things about > me? :-P > > Ted Grant wrote: > >> ROCKIN' THE BOAT! :-) >> >> OK Guys & Gals here I go again about the crucial needs for knowing this >> stuff. EXIF whatever it does in making, taking, shooting good photographs >> does? >> >> Please explain, as usual in the simplest of terms, because this EXIF isn't >> recorded does it mean the picture is lousy? However it becomes a work of >> > art > >> because you know what the EXIF is? >> >> Before people get their underpants in a knot and delete the "old guy " >> > think > >> about shooting film. >> >> We never had exposure, lens, aperture data on the negative! We shot it >> > right > >> or we didn't. All the details were recorded in our mind or you didn't >> > really > >> give a damn. Unless it was for a specific example of handling the camera >> > and > >> shutter speed for special effects. >> >> No I don't have a clue what the hell an EXIF is or does in shooting good >> > old > >> fashion solid photographs. And yes up to this moment I've worked with 4 >> different digital cameras, including an M8 with varying degrees of >> goodness!!! However the goodness depended on the guy holding the camera >> > and > >> had diddly squat to do with knowing an EXIF file from a wart! And all >> un-marked lenses! >> >> Or is this just another one of those digital techie things that clutters >> one's vision while trying to shoot solid photographs? >> >> >> Walt at the rate people go on about all this techie stuff I agree with you >> whole heartedly. It has become, or seems so, operating the camera is more >> important than taking good photographs. And having to "think" all this >> > stuff > >> litters the visual senses to the point where a piece of crap exposure on a >> sensor is gushed over because it has the EXIF details. >> >> So far the M8 material I've shot has been with plain old fashion M lenses >> quickly clicked into place and used without thinking about anything other >> than the visual moments before me! Dang and you know what? They look just >> fine! >> >> People can't be thinking about all this techie stuff and shooting good >> > stuff > >> at the same time. Simply because "you can't think and shoot" at the same >> time! Think about it and it's over before your finger twitches! >> >> EXIF? Hell who cares, don't think and wring wrists because it is or isn't >> there unless it truly makes ones photography better than you re-act to! >> >> Me? Hell I'm just going to continue using digital the same as I've shot >> > film > >> for over half a century, "see-click!" Nice picture.:-) Or, damn! Missed >> > it! > >> The title of the digital Power point lecture I gave last weekend to a >> > couple > >> hundred shooters? "DIGITAL. Ease up on the numbers. The Essence of >> Photography does not Change!" >> >> KISS guys and gals that's what it's all about! :-) >> >> ted >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >