Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/04/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Reminds me of a joke. A guy is giving a lecture and says "All M8 users are assholes." A guy in the back jumps up and says "I resent that!". The lecturer says "Are you an M8 owner?". The guy in the back says "No, I'm an asshole." Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA http://www.400tx.com http://400tx.blogspot.com/ -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Robert Schneider Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 8:03 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: [Leica] (no subject) I'm not sure it is your opinion as much as your condescending attitude. You're quite full of yourself. ________________________________________________________________________ ________ This is rich. I drop in to say what I know of the whereabouts and doings of B. D. Colen, a matter of great concern for some, it seems. Since a passive-aggressive joke (a favorite form on the internets) was uttered about B. D.'s attitude re: the M8, I also chose to echo his sentiments. Not good enough. At least one of the local cranks (George Lottermoser) asked for the opinion to be expressed over my signature. Done and done. Then two other perennial cranks (Doug Herr) and (Greg Lorenzo) refuse to accept my OPINION on the assumption that I've never used an M8, an issue that truly is neither here nor there to the discussion. Then YOU chime in saying that I'm the one with the condescending attitude. Explain that one to me, please. I expressed MY opinion on whether the M8 could possibly be a useful tool in my work. I don't see how it possibly could be. I expressed MY opinion that the M8 was released to the marketplace as a defective product, one that did not work as intended. That's not only an opinion, it's backed by fact. If the M8 had been intended to produce pink photographs, Leica would have stated as much in their user's manual and would have stressed, from the start, the necessity of IR cut-off filtration. Instead, they waffled on the subject, then said it was a "feature," then gave in to user and reviewer pressure to do SOMETHING to lessen the problem, since they refused to recall the cameras and install an effective IR filter on the sensor. Tell me how using an M8 for extended period of time will convince me that it's files aren't pink-to-purple without filters on all my lenses, that the RAW files (with all of their color casts, cyan vignettes, etc.) will be quicker to process than the files from my Canon DSLRs, that a 1.3x sensor will give me the same angle of view as a full-frame sensor, and that the ISO 1600 and ISO 3200 files will be as clean as the ones I get from my Canons (oops, the M8 won't go above 1250). But no, because I, too, chose to question the quality of the latest offering from the do-no-wrong gods of Solms, I'm ill-informed, condescending, and full of myself? I'm sorry that my opinion and/or perceived attitude offends you so. But no one here has shown me a single piece of evidence to convince me otherwise with regard to the M8. And very few of the regular "big shots" show much in the way of tolerance or acceptance of anyone outside of their little clique. rs __________________________________ http://www.robertschneider.com http://www.schneiderpix.com photoblog: Light Under a Bushel http://luab.blogtog.com _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information