Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/03/27

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Subject: [Leica] Film/Digital
From: heninger at adobe.com (Wade Heninger)
Date: Tue Mar 27 06:54:01 2007

Damn, sad to hear that Fortepan is going away.  I never liked the 400 so
much (it was super curly) but the 100 stuff was just gorgeous film to shoot.
I used it in both 35mm and 120 - it was my favorite 120 film.

Sigh...


On 3/27/07 4:21 AM, "Daniel Ridings" <dlr@dlridings.se> wrote:

> Didier,
> 
> I know what you mean about the "look" that comes from film. This
> particular film is not one I am very familiar with. I was given 20 rolls
> of Fortepan 400 (called ClassicPan 400 by some suppliers). It is made in
> Hungary, but is soon to be no more. They are discontinuing production of
> film and paper (pity ... I like their paper. The film is ho-hum at best
> in 35mm).
> 
> This film is the grainiest film I've ever used (and I've used a lot of
> Agfa APX400).
> 
> And you are so right about the post-production. In this case it is
> hampered a bit by my learning new tools (Lightroom and Lightzone ...
> today it is Lightzone).
> 
> Anyway, it dawned on me that I had these lying around and I am waiting
> for a meeting. So I gave it a shot.
> 
> Now to learn how to do it properly. I think digital can look better than
> what I have produced.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> Didier Ludwig wrote:
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Thx for the comparison shots. The film shot shows the grain, the look, 
>> that I
>> like. Also typical for film is the shorter DOF - which, finally, has
>> slightly to do with it because size of the medium influences the DOF - the
>> smaller the sensor the deeper the DOF when enlarged on the same size as 
>> the
>> film shot. And if you don't have a M8, R-D1 or a hi-end DSLR with fast
>> primes, digital also means slower lens - even more DOF.
>> 
>> But the low key/underxposure of your digital shot is not medium specific.
>> That's the photographer's job - if on- or post-production!
>> 
>> Didier
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Frank and Didier,
>>> 
>>> I usually don't get too involved in these discussions. I guess when it 
>>> comes
>>> right down to it, I really don't care. I use digital and I use film, for
>>> different reasons. I like them both.
>>> 
>>> But playing around with Lightzone as I have been doing recently, I have a
>>> shot last week with film:
>>> http://www.dlridings.se/gallery/v/Shoebox/2007v12/07v12-0002.jpg.html
>>> 
>>> And from the same sitting, one with digital:
>>> http://www.dlridings.se/gallery/v/Shoebox/2007v13/DSC_8674.jpg.html
>>> 
>>> I see now that the digital is too "low key". I need to brighten it up a 
>>> bit
>>> and do the color conversion intelligently rather than lazily.
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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