[Leica] IMG: Florida Wildlife

[kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)]

On Mar 5, 2007, at 7:33 PM, Adam Bridge wrote:

> On 3/5/07, Tina Manley <images@infoave.net> wrote:
>> At 07:33 PM 3/5/2007, you wrote:
>> >It's easy to make fun of these folks. Yes, walking would be good  
>> but I
>> >have a feeling that they're in those motorized chairs because they
>> >have lost mobility and CANNOT walk.
>> >
>> >Adam Bridge
>>
>> All of that is true, Adam, but I was very depressed by the number of
>> people at Disney who were in these scooters because they can't walk
>> and in spite of that they were in line to buy and eat funnel cakes
>> and donuts and cotton candy.
>
> People eat for MANY reasons. Speaking with specialists in obesity is
> very instructive because there are so many paths to the condition and
> it is so very difficult to break away from.
>
>> I've seen many documentaries on obese
>> people who manage with great will power to lose weight and then gain
>> it all back.
>
> The weightloss cycle works like any addiction cycle with one major
> exception: unlike smoking, drugs or gambling you MUST eat. Life-long
> lessons about what to eat, learned as a child, come home to haunt and
> haunt and haunt. Desires for the "wrong" food, for too great a
> quantity are extremely difficult to break.
>
>> There has to be something in the American society today
>> that is causing people to be so obsessed with food.  There were many
>> other nationalities at Disney World.  I made it a point to seek them
>> out.  None were as obese as the North Americans.  The Japanese were
>> skinny - all of them.  All of the morbidly obese people in the
>> motorized scooters were North Americans.  Why?
>
> Because there are powerful economic interests built around selling us
> the foods least good for us but which our brains are essentially
> hard-wired to desire. (Well, many of us have it, some naturally do
> not. Maybe you're one of the lucky ones.
>
>> I hesitated to post
>> these photos because I was sure somebody would respond the way you
>> did, but I truly want to know what it is in our society that causes
>> this.  They have to know that they are eating themselves to
>> death.  It wasn't just these two. There were hundreds of people at
>> Disney just like this.  One of the most depressing sights was a very
>> obese woman in a motorized chair who had made room for her obese
>> young son to stand in front of her and ride rather than walk.  To me
>> it's very sad.  I'll admit I do not understand it.
>
> Tina I question if it even remotely entered your head that you might
> be offending someone. You had an easy shot and you took it. Oh wow -
> what a great insight - fat people eat too much and LOOK just LOOK at
> these lazy people who won't even WALK! They RIDE all the way to one of
> the highest caloric stands in the park!
>
> Yep - real insight there!
>
> I'm fairly sure that you could do a similar hit piece on your Central
> American friends but you refrain because you're not judging them in
> the same way. You've placed yourself above these people and from your
> lordly position you're making a judgement.
>
> Well sorry Tina, I'm not letting it fly this time. There was nothing
> in your images that was human or caring -- just nasty and without
> sympathy. Well good on you if you're proud of that. Come back when
> you've done a series that reflects their lives, the path that got them
> there, some sympathy and understanding.
>
> I'm incredibly disappointed and even shocked at your inability to see
> the intimate human problem. It's certainly not Christian - although
> it's certainly judgmental enough for the church I grew up in so I
> guess it is.
>
> I'm not letting this go because it's so EASY to go after us fat folks.
> Great for Jay Leno to make his lard bucket jokes. But they HURT.
> They're cruel. And they aren't needed.


Adam, I'm sorry you are going after Tina... she may actually be  
concerned and caring enough to have good reasons for her post...

straight talk isn't necessarily hostile... the expression "tough  
love" applies here...

to get people thinking, to be as acutely aware as you are, to be  
motivated to do what you have done... and ultimately care enough as  
you do... to save their own lives....


Steve
>
> Adam Bridge
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