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Subject: [Leica] which medium format?
From: editor at frontenachouse.com (Rose Scollard)
Date: Mon Feb 26 19:07:14 2007
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Very impressive - that is an amazing procedure.  D/
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philip Forrest" <photo.forrest@earthlink.net>
To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] which medium format?


> Check medfmt.8k.com for articles on lens hacking.  For my modification I
> didn't even need to hack the 135 Hektor.  I had a Nikkor 135mm lens for my
> Bronica ECTL that was a paperweight due to fungus etching the back of the
> front lens group.  At the time I was attempting to create a 200mm f/4 lens
> from an old parts lens SMC Takumar 200 f/4.  I had both the lenses apart 
> and
> a host of parts spread about.  It turned out that a flange inside the 
> 200mm
> lens had the exact thread dia. and pitch that I needed to fit to the lens
> head of the Leica 135 Hektor.  I checked the Leica 135 lens head against a
> ground glass to see the distance from the lens head flange to plane of 
> sharp
> focus at infinity AND checked to see if this lens had adequate coverage.
> After removing a few parts from the Nikkor lens, I had the bare locking
> collar ready to mate with the flange.  It turned out the lens on the 
> flange
> was a little too close to the film plane and I had to shim it out about
> 1.2mm to achieve infinity focus.  I left a little bit of "slop" in the 
> focus
> giving it the ability to move past infinity just in case the mount
> registration changed a bit or temperature caused some expansion of the
> helical.  After I got it all fabbed up, I created a jig with a few sets of
> metal worker's vise grips and a c-clamp.  I secured the lens mount inside
> the jig and JB welded the necessary parts together.  I let it sit for the 
> 6
> hours necessary & tested focus.  It was spot on just as I had planned. 
> Now
> I have an adapter that will allow me to simply screw on my Leica 135 
> Hektor
> which is a LOT sharper than the Nikkor offering that I was used to with 
> the
> fungus.  I still have the ability to put this lens head right back on my 
> RF
> helical since no modification was made to the lens, only a fabbed up
> adapter/focusing mount.
> All you need to do this really is a long focus lens with enough coverage 
> for
> 6x6 (many older non-retrofocus long focal length lenses for 35mm have
> adequate coverage for 6x6 when they are freed from their native mounts.)
> Measure up the registration of the lens elements to the focal plane agains 
> t
> aground glass & start fabbing up your adapters.
> If you have a camera that uses lenses in shutter, you'll have to secure a
> focusing helical and shutter.  A lot harder than using a focal plane
> shuttered camera with modular helical like the old Bronica mount or the
> early Hassy focal plane shutter cameras.
> You could always use a lens cap I suppose...
>
> Philip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of Rose Scollard
> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 7:40 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] which medium format?
>
> That sounds like fun - how do you do this? David Scollard
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Philip Forrest" <photo.forrest@earthlink.net>
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] which medium format?
>
>
>> You could also adapt any visoflex lenses to almost any 6x6 MF body with a
>> shutter like I've done with my 135 Hektor on my Bronica.  Works
>> fabulously,
>> better than the Nikkor 135 that I was using.
>> Philip
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Steve Barbour
>> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:12 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: [Leica] which medium format?
>>
>>> There's been plenty of talk about how cheap medium format stuff is
>>> right now.
>>>
>>> What would you guys suggest as being the camera to get if starting
>>> from scratch?
>>
>>
>> how about an M8...  ?
>>
>>
>>
>> remember why we are here.... leica people all,  wedded to leicas,
>> 35mm, small, lightweight, available darkness, great glass...
>>
>> and all that...
>>
>> we've got bodies, lenses out the "wazuuuuu".....
>>
>> and people now seem to be interested in other..... 'cus it's
>> cheap....  ??!
>>
>>
>> well, duhhhh, there's a reason for that...
>>
>>
>> you don't need to go back, to reinvent the wheel...
>>
>> you can get an M8...
>>
>> you don't know what to do with your money ?
>>
>> ....send your $ to Tina, myself, others...
>>
>> we are saving up for a second one...
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Steve
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