Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/02/19

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Subject: [Leica] Re: The Elusive Digilux 3 (NOT DLlux3)
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Mon Feb 19 18:15:52 2007

Bob,

Not sure what you are worried about.  The Digilux 3 is readily available, 
and for a difference of $500 and the warranty differences it is easily worth 
the premium.  If you do not want ot pay the extra, get one of the Oly or 
other 4/3 format cameras and buy the R adapter and then use R lenses on it.  
A huge deal either way.  From what I have seen with my M8 so far, those 
kicking it are full of beans.  Sure there are some initial bugs, but it 
would appear they have been solved or were pretty minor to begin with.  So 
far my M8 works as advertised.  If you are thinking of buying a Leica or 
Panasonic Digital, do so and enjoy it and ignore the disenters.

Gene

-------------- Original message from Bob Shaw <rsphotoimages@comcast.net>: 
-------------- 


> David: 
> 
> Now, BOTH of you are scaring me!So far, everyone has been reading my 
> tortured (read as, misplaced Leica loyalty) thoughts about the 
> PanaLeica and/or the Oly. 
> 
> I see both of these cameras every day in my job (I'm in and out of 
> Best Buy, Circuit City and CompUSA stores 5 days a week from Seattle to 
> Bellingham...). They know me now; I Hear Them Call My Name... 
> 
> What really gets me is the 2-lens Oly kit. The wide and tele Zuiko 
> lenses may not be made of CNC-machined brass and Schott crystal glass 
> billets, but the prints from the Oly sure look good. Go Figure. 
> 
> But now I think about it, so do prints from the half-dozen or so Lumix 
> P&S digicams with DC Vario Elmarits. 
> 
> I also suspect that Leica doesn't have much of a margin on the Digilux 
> 3, hence no competitive coupon or discount incentives on the horizon. 
> 
> By the way, I spoke at length to the Panasonic Rep at a Circuit City 
> north of Seattle yesterday; watch for two new Lumix digicams in the 
> pocket size with enhanced specifications. Also, two new HD video cams; 
> one with disc drive, the other (same camera) with very high capacit SD 
> Card. 
> 
> He said the Leica cachet on the lenses has been berry berry good for 
> Panasonic, forcing Sony (Carl Zeiss), Kodak and Samsung (Schneider) to 
> emphasize their "German Lens" connection. 
> 
> This is a long way from Nikon's late 1950's S Zeiss lookalike RF bodies 
> fitted with Zeiss Jena 50mm new in the box. 
> 
> Meanwhile, the word from Solms is, well, no word. 
> 
> 
> Cheers. I work all day today in Best Buy. I'm gonna wear ear plugs so 
> I can't hear the Lumix/Oly Siren Song... 
> 
> 
> Bob 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 19, 2007, at 8:01, David Young wrote: 
> 
> For Bob and David & anyone else: 
> > David: 
> > 
> > You been reading my mind? 
> > 
> > Scary. Very scary of you. 
> > 
> > Cheers, 
> > 
> > Bob 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Feb 18, 2007, at 22:54, David Keenan wrote: 
> > 
> >> better firmware 
> > 
> > That's a laugh. The firmware issues of the M8 is pretty strong 
> > evidence that 
> > Leica ain't so good at writing code. 
> 
> For what it's worth, David, Leica did not write the M8's code. All 
> Leica will admit is that it was done by "a partner". By bets are on 
> Jenoptik, (still the) owner of Sinar. 
> 
> > Frankly, I doubt that it (the firmware) is any different then what is 
> > in the 
> > Lumix. Why would it be? Why would Panasonic agree to market a camera 
> > with 
> > "inferior" firmware. Ridiculous. 
> 
> The firmware in the Digilux 3 is written by Leica. Whether it is any 
> better is "in the eye of the beholder", but they claim better colours. 
> 
> > I have strongly considered buying the Panasonic. 
> 
> Were I to go that route, I'd buy the PanaLeica or even the Oly, first. 
> (Howard and Gary are very happy with their Olys!) Even if the firmware 
> in the Digilux 3 IS better, I can't see it being $800 worth of better! 
> 
> Cheers! 
> --- 
> 
> David Young, 
> Logan Lake, CANADA 
> 
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> Personal Web-pages: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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