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Subject: [Leica] Arrival of a "new" baby
From: firkin at ncable.net.au (Alastair Firkin)
Date: Fri Feb 16 15:45:46 2007
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Marc,
were there ever "plans" for an SL44, or the baby blad? The SL44 might  
have had a look of the SL2000/3003.

Cheers
On 17/02/2007, at 10:22, Marc James Small wrote:

> At 06:21 PM 2/16/2007, Alastair Firkin wrote:
>
> >the 1965 post war baby was really a bit of a failure. Of course, that
> >makes it all the more collectable. The shutter is a bit "stiff", but
> >that is probably because it looks like very little film went through
> >it. 127 was dying when it came out: the film was more expensive than
> >the larger 120 format and there were few new cameras. Rollei of
> >course kept making them ;-)
>
> The final 127 Rollei, the "Black Baby", is a highly prized as few  
> were made and it was not in production for long.  It did correct  
> the shutter woes which afflicted a lot of the Baby Greys and is  
> sought after both as a user and as a collectible.
>
> 127 film has certainly not cost more than 120 film in the US at  
> least for the past 40 years, as I regularly shoot both.  It is an  
> interesting format.  In the early 1960's, when 120 was the primary  
> professional format, there were informal discussions between  
> various companies (my notes are not at hand at the moment, but I  
> recall that Franke & Heidecke and Victor Hasselblad and AGFA and  
> Kodak and Ilford were involved, and several Japanese companies)  
> about attempting to make 127 the new professional film, with "Baby  
> Hasselblads" joining Baby Rolleis and the like in the marketplace.   
> The idea is intriguing:  the boom in emulsion qualities meant that  
> a 4cm by 4cm negative in 1965 provided more information than had a  
> 6cm by 6cm negative in, say, 1950, so that quality would be  
> retained with about a 40% loss in weight and bulk.
>
> The idea died a-borning as 120 was just too entrenched among studio  
> and wedding and event photoraphers and 35mm was becoming the new  
> universal format for action photographers.  WWII US combat  
> photographers used Graflex cut-film cameras or Rolleiflex cameras,  
> with 35mm being the fall-back allowed for only the very best, such  
> as Capa.  The Korean War saw this change, though US Army  
> photographers held to the 70mm Combat Graphic, that Contax on  
> Steroids.  Capa died during the French time in South-East Asia with  
> a Contax at this side and a Nikon RF in front of him.  And Viet-Nam  
> was almost totally 35mm.
>
> But I'd have loved to have seen a Rollei SL44 or that 127 Hasselblad!
>
> Marc
>
>
> msmall@aya.yale.edu
> Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!
>
>
>
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In reply to: Message from walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson) ([Leica] The Devil made me do it)
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