Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/01/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Peter, understood on the bloat comments. Doesn't bother me, hard drives are ridiculously cheap. Every week I learn some new thing with PS, a few more features, and it has the best tools I know for my purposes. Yes, it's a sizeable investment and yes most photographers may not use a lot of the features. In my case I have it installed as part of the suite so it's quite an install. I'm looking forward to investigating the Lightroom as well. Glad to hear that you remain committed to film! Cheers Hoppy -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Peter Dzwig Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:55 To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Elements 5.0 Versus Lightroom 1.0 Hoppy, Wade, Thanks for the comments. From my perspective is that PSE is infuriating, because it never really gets there, although at the shake of a CVS tree it could almost certainly be made a really useful tool for those of us who aren't into moving images, sound, weird distortion effects and a simple, clean UI. BTW a 16-bit system isn't any more expensive, that's a myth. Adobe's been missing a great product opprtunity. I just wish that they would bite the bullet and do it. PS is a bit like a big corporation that needs splitting up in order to deliver better value. Hoppy: no, PS is exactly NOT like Leica glass. You buy Leica glass to do one thing; get those light rays on to film (I shan't mention that other stuff!) in the cleanest way possible. It is pure simple optics made to the highest quality. Yes we can argue about the price, but it does its single job superbly. No bloat. PS IS bloatware when you consider what the vast majority of we photographers want to do with it. Best to you both Peter Dzwig PS Wade please fix that UI Wade Heninger wrote: > > > On 1/30/07 2:54 PM, "G Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > >> Wade, I bow to your expertise and experience with Lightroom. I have >> neither. > > I don't even own the robes of *that* priesthood. Just a schmo with a > camera > and the audacity to plague others with its output. But that is most of us. > > I guess the point is that these new tools (LR, Apterture) are really > focused > on providing a better place to "grow up" with digital. > > Starting today? Learn LR or Aperture and then expand into PS when needed. > >> Guts call regarding not needing to do major work some times ;-) Of course >> everyone in this group always shoots with perfect or >> nearly so, exposure and composition. > > LOL. Yep. Every once in a while a good picture is made great with these > tools - sometimes you just don't see X or compensate for Y and its nice to > turn to them when it merits the attention. > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > w a d e h e n i n g e r > u s e r e x p e r i e n c e > a d o b e s y s t e m s , i n c >