Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/12/08

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Subject: [Leica] Math Question
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Fri Dec 8 05:41:47 2006
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20061206152403.027b4508@infoave.net> <45772DC5.3040508@mcclary.net> <23C63C29-1E1D-43D6-A946-45C580F2326E@pandora.be> <4577300C.7000108@mcclary.net> <F04C2DAF-1C77-416C-ACC7-72A31E62F94F@pandora.be> <p0623090dc19e3edfaa21@[10.1.16.133]> <4578A515.7040506@waltjohnson.com> <p06230914c19eb640e40f@[10.1.16.133]>

I think I'll start shooting all my Tri-X at 666 ISO. BTW has anyone 
noticed the change (years ago) from ASA to ISO appears useless?

Henning Wulff wrote:

>> Doesn't it have something to do with logging rhythms. in .3 increments?
>>
>> Henning Wulff wrote:
>>
>>> At 10:29 PM +0100 12/6/06, Philippe Orlent wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was just remembering my ISO scale on the back of my MP: 
>>>> 50-100-200-400-800- etc.
>>>>
>>>> But the zones in between are divided in 3 parts.
>>>>
>>>> So between 50-100: 50/3=16,7
>>>> Between: 100-200: 100/3=33,33, which would put 160 at 100 and 2/3ds
>>>> Two full stops under brings us at
>>>> 400 and 2/3ds
>>>> Which is 400 + (800-400)x2/3= 666,7
>>>>
>>>> I may be wrong, but it looks like Leica logics to me.
>>>> :-)
>>>> Philippe
>>>>
>>>
>>> ISO is not continuous. It's only defined for the discrete 
>>> progression (from 100 to 3200) for 100, 125, 160, 200, 250, 320, 
>>> 400, 500, 640, 800, 1000, 1250, 1600, 2000, 2500, 3200.
>>>
>>> No numbers in between, ie, there is not 'ISO 300' or 'ISO 666'.
>>>
>
> ISO combines the old ASA and DIN scales, and makes the measurement 
> methods and ratings equivalent. DIN was logarithmic while ASA was 
> arithmetic, with 400 ASA = 27DIN, 320 ASA = 26 DIN. For every step the 
> ASA took an arithmetic step, and DIN took a logarithmic step. 
> Different measurement methods meant that there wasn't a complete 
> equivalency, but then they got together and came out with the ISO 
> method and scaling, which allows for both an arithmetic and 
> logarithmic scale. So now the old 400 ASA is approximately ISO 400/27.
>
> Both systems jump in discrete, defined steps with intermediate values 
> undefined.
>

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