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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Need help with C22 degs
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Tue Nov 28 16:09:37 2006
References: <000801c71349$fb7be690$6501a8c0@asus930>

Thanks, Hoppy.

I think I'm getting a much better education on PS then I ever  
expected. Thanks to everybody for helping.

Len


On Nov 28, 2006, at 7:04 PM, G Hopkinson wrote:

> Len, as you know I sent you my attempt off list and a link to  
> Julianne Kost at Adobeevangelists, where I learnt this approach.
> I'd like to add to the suggestions regarding setting the black and  
> white points. I thought that this might be of interest to others
> and maybe promote some discussion. I know that there are some  
> Photoshop gurus on the list.
> As was pointed out you can use thresholds to locate the darkest and  
> lightest areas, then sample there. But unless those points are
> truly pure white and black (which your monitor and print won't  
> reproduce anyway) you are losing some tonal information there. That
> becomes particularly important where the scan is only 8 bit (as in  
> a jpeg). So you end up with gaps in your histogram, that is not a
> smooth range.
> So for a white, for example, firstly there has to be one in the  
> image. Only a specular light source would truly be close. I'd
> suggest that you look at the sampled RGB values, find the lowest  
> value and then adjust the other two channels to the same value. Use
> a levels adjustment layer. Now you've neutralised the highlight,  
> Similar process for the darkest point.
> For the mid tones choose a point that you think should be a NEUTRAL  
> grey. You may not necessarily have or want exactly a mid-tone.
> If you do set that point as say 133 and it wasn't close, you are  
> altering the tonal range once again. It may not be bad, but it may
> not be what was there, either. The important point is to adjust the  
> three channels at that point to be the same value. Use a curve
> adjustment layer.
>
> The other point I mentioned off list is that, once you have  
> established a corrected version, you can drag the adjustment layer to
> other similar images where you have a number to correct.
>
> Well let's see what our knowledgeable LUG folk think of these  
> suggestions
>
> Cheers
> Hoppy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org  
> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On  
> Behalf Of
> Don Dory
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:24
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Need help with C22 degs
>
> Len,
> You shouldn't panic, this is a relatively easy correction.  If  
> using PS then
> open an adjustment layer:levels.  Use the white point eye dropper on
> something that should be white in the image; you can use the  
> pointer to find
> something near 255,255,255.  Then find something that should be  
> black and do
> the same with the black point eyedropper.  Most of the time the  
> color gets
> really close at this point.
>
> This is your original:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DoryG/On-the-road/ 
> OrchidIsland_1.jpg.html
>
> and this is what happens after I did the above:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DoryG/On-the-road/ 
> OrchidIsland_1copy.jpg.html
>
> Possibly a little bit blue but pretty close to reality as seen by  
> thirty
> year old print film.  In actuality I would add another adjustment  
> layer for
> color and tweak in a little bit of yellow back.
>
> Don
> don.dory@gmail.com
>
>
> On 11/27/06, Leonard Taupier <len-1@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> I have a large number of C22 color negatives from the 70's I'm trying
>> to scan. I find it impossible to get the color right. I have spent
>> hours with the following two images and they still aren't right. Does
>> anybody know of a profile for Nikon scanners what will handle C22
>> processed negatives?
>>
>> Nearly all my old negatives were taken in the Far East in Taiwan,
>> Hong Kong, and off shore Islands. About two years worth.
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/LeonardT/Orchid+Island/
>> OrchidIsland_1.jpg.html
>>
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/LeonardT/Orchid+Island/
>> OrchidIsland_2.jpg.html
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Len
>>
>
>
>
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