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Subject: [Leica] M8 High ISO performanace
From: rhaightjr at yahoo.com (Bob Haight)
Date: Mon Oct 30 16:52:41 2006

Goes to show, you should have used an M3. Bob Haight

--- G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> Thanks Howard, that's very informative.
> Cheers
> Hoppy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>
[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org]
> On Behalf Of
> Howard Cummer
> Sent: Monday, 30 October 2006 15:04
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Subject: [Leica] M8 High ISO performanace
> 
> Hi Luggers,
> I broke down and spent the $26 to subscribe to Sean
> Reid's review  
> site in order to read for myself his two part review
> on the M8 (which  
> overall he likes very much) and obtained from him
> permission to quote  
> this comment on high ISO performance:
> 
> > "At ISO 160 and 320, there's little noticeable
> difference between  
> > the noise levels of the M8 and 5D. At ISO 640, the
> Leica shows  
> > slightly more noise than the Canon but it's a
> minimal difference.  
> > At ISO 1250 the M8 clearly shows more noise than
> the 5D but it's  
> > fairly moderate if one allows C1 to do its default
> "color noise  
> > suppression". At ISO 2500/3200 it's clear that no
> one would mistake  
> > ISO 2500 files from the M8 for ISO 3200 files from
> the 5D. --- The  
> > Canon files at maximum ISO are undeniably cleaner
> and show little  
> > of what we might call "digital grain". *But * if
> one follows the  
> > workflow described above, he or she can create
> very beautiful,  
> > somewhat "grainy" files from the M8 at ISO 2500.
> They will be  
> > grittier than those from the Canon but they're not
> unusable for  
> > many kinds of work. It's interesting to note that
> the fine detail  
> > seem in the M8 sample made at ISO 160 can still be
> seen at ISO  
> > 2500; the latter file is gritty but precise. The
> Canon file seems  
> > to show somewhat less detail at ISO 3200 than at
> ISO 160. Given  
> > that both cameras's files were converted in C1
> with the "noise  
> > suppression"slider at its lowest setting. I'm
> puzzled as to why the  
> > Canon alone seems to have lost some of the detail
> one might expect  
> > to lose from luminance filtering"
> >
> >
> 
> At the end of the review Sean concludes that the M8
> is one of a short  
> list of very competent digital cameras and that its
> introduction is a  
> commendable accomplishment.
> I enjoyed the other articles on the site which have
> a major focus on  
> rangefinders, especially the RD 1, and lenses for
> digital  
> rangefinders and would recommend it to others who
> want a  
> photographer's review of cameras rather than a
> gearhead's. And no, I  
> have received no consideration from Sean for this
> endorsement, except  
> his courtesy in letting me quote from the review
> above.
> Cheers
> Howard (in HK) 
>   
> 
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