Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Walt, You're bringing back memories. I lived in El Paso for 7 years before getting transferred to Philadelphia in 1983. I took that bridge to work every day. And saw whole families crossing that river. (not much of a river now). The problem I have with Velvia is the reds are too saturated. I took a few shots this spring of a field of red tulips. The red was so saturated you could hardly make out individual flowers. Except for that Velvia is great. The sharpest E-6 film available today. Len On Oct 28, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Walt Johnson wrote: > The first time I shot Velvia was in the early 90's. It was on the > bridge between El Paso and Juarez. Some fellow was getting ready to > wade across the Rio Grande and had taken off his expensive boots. > When I saw the results the darn things were so sharp and vivid I > never shot it again. It looked too damned real! If I were going to > shoot Mother Nature though it would be with Velvia. > > Walt > > Leonard Taupier wrote: > >> Walt, >> >> You're lucky you still have Rodinal. I'm down to my last half >> bottle. Even J and C never seems to have the older 09 formula in >> stock. >> >> I agree with you on scanned transparency photos. Since I shoot >> outdoors in sunlight with high contrast Leica lenses, I find the >> better films like Velvia are much too contrasty though. Kodak E100 >> is much more natural and gives me beautiful prints. I don't shoot >> color negatives any more. Not since developing and printing my >> own color in the mid 80's. The work (and cost) was in the >> printing. I don't mind trying C-41 though. But I do get E-6 turn >> around in 24 hours. Very handy. >> >> Len >> >> On Oct 28, 2006, at 10:20 AM, Walt Johnson wrote: >> >>> Len >>> >>> Right now I've a bag full of Fomapan 400 and a stockpile of >>> Rodinal. I can't really tell any difference between TX and HP5 >>> and if it were not so overpriced I'd shoot Bergger. It had been >>> quite a few years since shooting any E-6 film but recently I >>> scanned a transparency and it blew me away. They make fine >>> monochromes for those seeking details. I've tried to give up b&w >>> film in favor of C-41 and Photoshop but something keeps tugging >>> at the back of my mind. >>> >>> For one thing, when I process my own b&w it is done right. >>> Dropping my C-41 off at a lab always makes me nervous. Kodak's >>> Ultra Color C-41 would almost make doing your own color neg >>> processing worthwhile though since it is amazing film. >>> >>> Walt >>> >>> Leonard Taupier wrote: >>> >>>> Have you tried an old style film like the Efke (Adox) KB25? I >>>> like it a lot even if you have to be careful how you handle >>>> it. I always preferred Panatomic-X and Plus-X to get the >>>> tonality in my landscapes and still life photos in the 60's. >>>> Currently I use APX100 and Fuji Acros 100 with X-tol. I still >>>> like my DR but when a certain mood hits I bring out the Efke >>>> and the collapsible Summicron. My type of photo never needed >>>> the speed or the grain of Tri-X. As film shooters we are still >>>> very fortunate to have these choices. Film ain't dead yet. >>>> >>>> Len >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 27, 2006, at 10:48 PM, Walt Johnson wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've always labored under the assumption slower, thin >>>>> emulsion films have steeper curves and consequently are >>>>> higher contrast. I wished it were possible to find some Tri-X >>>>> circa 1970 because these newer films really seem to lack >>>>> depth. They are certainly sharp as hell and grainless but >>>>> also toneless compared to what once was. I picked up a >>>>> collapsible a few years back with the usual haze that can be >>>>> hard to see. Leitz redid it for me and image wise it compares >>>>> with my late model Summicron. >>>>> I sure can;t help but feel the look we all knew and loved >>>>> related to film and developer rather than lens characteristics. >>>>> >>>>> Walt >>>>> >>>>> Alastair Firkin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ah, at last I can offer an opinion ;-) I have the >>>>>> collapsible Summicron on my M3. It is a lens I choose above >>>>>> others when I want a slightly 1960's feel to the result: >>>>>> using this lens with Plus X like film makes images I >>>>>> recognise, gives a feeling that is different to the more >>>>>> modern glass: I suppose its "softness" and would suffer in >>>>>> lens tests, but it would have been perfect for your "grab" >>>>>> shot the other day of the two people kissing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Others will prefer Tri X, but I never liked Tri X. Being a >>>>>> contrary bastard, I really disliked the high contrast >>>>>> grainy images my peers were making in the 1970's and >>>>>> therefore always bought Plus X Pan --- I use mainly APX 100 >>>>>> for the similar feeling now. >>>>>> >>>>>> One down side to the lens is that the f stop ring is a bit >>>>>> stiff and rotating it sometimes unlocks the barrel, but I'm >>>>>> used to that now. One plus is that it can be used to pre- >>>>>> focus with its "tab" far more easily (certainly than the >>>>>> DR summicron which lacks the tab) because the focus ring >>>>>> is "exposed" when the lens is "mounted" and easy to feel >>>>>> without looking. >>>>>> >>>>>> Great lens in "some" ways and good travel companion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> On 27/10/2006, at 23:03, Luis Ripoll wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would appreciate your experienced opinions about the >>>>>>> Collapsible Summicron >>>>>>> 50mm. I had the "Rigid" Summicron, I've sold it because it >>>>>>> had fungus and >>>>>>> make a lot of haze, but I regret the nice richness of grey >>>>>>> tones that this >>>>>>> lens gave me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now I have 3 lenses of 50 mm: Summicron model of the year >>>>>>> 198/199..., >>>>>>> Summilux (1964), and the new Elmar. I'm looking for the >>>>>>> Collapsible >>>>>>> Summicron to have the "nostalgia" subtle tones of the past. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could I have some opinions about how it will compare with >>>>>>> my actual 50mm >>>>>>> lenses (Summilux and Elmar)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your opinions and advice >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saludos desde Barcelona >>>>>>> Luis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information