Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/28

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Subject: [Leica] Re:M8 and the Future
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Sat Oct 28 06:38:21 2006

BD,

Where did Leica say this?  I had not seen any such statement.  Just curious 
as this would seem a natural thing to design into an electronic item these 
days.

Gene


-------------- Original message from "B. D. Colen" <bd@bdcolenphoto.com>: 
-------------- 


> One, Leica says it's not weather sealed, and this has also been pointed 
> out 
> in at least one non-LUG review. Two, as that particular review pointed 
> out, 
> an M may not be weather sealed, but it is a mechanical camera; if it gets 
> soaked, dry it out. An M 8 is an electronic camera, no matter how solidly 
> built it is - and it appears that it may be the most solidly built 
> digital. 
> And it's being electronic means that if you get caught in rain - not even 
> heavy rain - it may be fried. 
> 
> 
> On 10/25/06 10:11 PM, "grduprey@mchsi.com" wrote: 
> 
> > Actually the M8 and any M are very pro built. What is your evidence the 
> > M8 is 
> > not weather proofed? I would bet it is just as weather proof as the 5D 
> > or 
> > either of the R8 or R9 cameras. I have yet to have any of my M or R 
> > cameras 
> > succum to rain or heavy knocks. My M6TTL took the same tumble down a 
> > river 
> > embankment when I fell off a bridge onto rocks and other fun stuff. 
> > There was 
> > no damage to the camera, which is more than I can say for me. I'm not 
> > usre 
> > the 5D or the D200 cameras could take the same beating. I don't own the 
> > 5D, 
> > but do own a D200. The 1D series I'm sure would hold up, but then they 
> > are 
> > considerly more money, and in the same or higher price reange as the M8. 
> > 
> > Gene 
> > 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message from "Matt Powell" : 
> > -------------- 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 10/24/06, Christopher Williams wrote: 
> >>> Show me where Canon and Nikon's Professional equipment has gotten 
> >>> cheaper. 
> >>> It's still over $4000 for a pro Nikon (okay so the D1x's were $5500) 
> >>> over 
> >>> $7000 for the top of the line Canon - are you comparing a 5D body to a 
> >>> 1Ds 
> >>> Mk II??? 
> >> 
> >> No, I'm saying that the 5d is the most comparable 'pro body' (it isn't 
> >> weather-sealed, but it does produce large enough files to send out for 
> >> stock without upsizing) and its pricing (along with that of the d200) 
> >> will be the trend going forward. The M8 is no more a pro body than 
> >> either of those - it's not weather-sealed, low fps, 1.3x factor in 
> >> between. A great image sensor, and my 35 'lux would be a good normal - 
> >> but it's still half a Hyundai and so far out of the reach of most 
> >> people that it can't ignite any kind of Leica Renaissance. 
> >> 
> >>> How is a crap 75-300 lens great for low light performance? 
> >> It's not - that lens is simply the cheapest way to get a double rebate 
> >> and the 5d down to its lowest price. 
> >> 
> >> The current double rebate for a Canon 5d is $600 and the double rebate 
> >> on a $160 75-300 lens (that you could turn around and sell if you 
> >> didn't want) is $20. $2941 from Amazon, $620 rebate, no tax. $2321. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> MP 
> >> wooderson@gmail.com 
> >> 
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