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Subject: Fwd: [Leica] Photokina
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Sun Oct 1 09:52:45 2006
References: <C14586B5.2816%philippe.orlent@duvalguillaumecorporate.com>

>
> Another impression of the M8: the rangefinder has the typical Leica  
> brightness, but a bit less than the MP it seemed: the central patch  
> was somewhat dimmer. The varifinder is big indeed, but when you  
> hold the camera and look through it, it's OK. Very bright. Locked  
> to 21mm ATM, no framelines ATM (don't know if that will be a  
> feature, but I always like being able to see more than the actual  
> frame), impressive paralax correction. But not very handy: you need  
> 3 hands or a lot of time to focus, correct paralax and fire the  
> shutter.
> Just my 2 cents.
> Philippe
>>
>> Philippe Orlent wrote:
>>> You all know what is being/has been presented on Photokina, so I  
>>> won't
>>> bother you with that: other folks ar far more technical gifted  
>>> than I
>>> am and all the news is already out.
>>>
>>> A little impression of a first timer is all I can give you.
>>>
>>> 1) The fair is huge. If you go on saturday, and if you want to see
>>> everything, be prepared to be in the middle of a buzzing herd of
>>> people that want exactly the same as you.
>>> In other words: if you can, don't go on a saturday.
>>>
>>> 2) It is a fair for boys that like big toys: a lot of 10 pounders
>>> hanging around people's necks, all showing that they have a big  
>>> lens.
>>> Let's say that these combo's replace the Coke bottle that  
>>> adolescents
>>> sometimes put in their trousers to impress...
>>>
>>> 3) The big ones (Canon, Nikon, Epson, Panasonic and a little bit
>>> behind that Olympus) have huge stands where everything is digital:
>>> everyone is showing screens with shots that show how much detail the
>>> sensors can get and how much detail the printers can print. Rest
>>> assured, they all perform perfectly in these circumstances. Whether
>>> these are the same as yours at home, is nother question ofcourse.
>>> They also all create 'photo opportunities' with whether a 'model'
>>> contest, some dancing show stuff, or -for the real Chimps out there-
>>> bodypainted nude ladies. Very succesful, so if you want to shoot  
>>> that
>>> kind of stuff, bring a massive tele, a little ladder and post  
>>> yourself
>>> a bit further away: you'll get the shot that you were looking for.
>>> Unless you want to feel like a paparazzo with your camera above your
>>> head and the lcd screen tilted down.
>>>
>>> 4) Speaking of massive teles. Remember that Zeiss 1700 of which  
>>> photos
>>> have already been posted on this list? On screen it looks big. In  
>>> real
>>> it's huge: imagine a full size atomic submarine and park it next to
>>> the Zeiss: it will be hard to see the size difference.
>>>
>>> 5) Which brings us to the Zeiss, Hasselblad, Alpa, Mamiya and Leica
>>> floor. That was yummy.
>>>
>>> 6) Leica: a lot of interest for the M8: everybody (waiting times  
>>> up to
>>> 10 minutes to get a -too short- grip on one) wanted to hold and use
>>> it. Opinions about handling the camera were unanimous: it looks like
>>> an M, it feels like an M, it shoots like an M. The shutter sound
>>> didn't bother me: a short snappy and dry sound that wasn't too loud
>>> either. I fires away at the 3 images at 2 secs rate, which is
>>> pleasant, but not necesseraly needed IMO. It has some buffering
>>> problems though: if you fire away, you have to wait a bit to see the
>>> shots appear on the LCD. Good ergonomics: as intuitive as the  
>>> Digilux
>>> 2. Everything points itself out.
>>> Which cannot be said of the Digilux 3. There are so many buttons on
>>> this one that you need a day or so to memorize the manual. Which is
>>> too much for me.
>>> I'm not into the R, so I can't say much of that: the crowd was a
>>> little smaller, but a lot of interested folks nevertheless. Same  
>>> thing
>>> for the V series.
>>> Overall feeling: Leica is back on track, and I have hopes for them.
>>> Not high hopes yet, but the future looks brighter than a year ago  
>>> IMO.
>>> Funny little anecdote: a German guy next to me at the M8 stand asked
>>> if he could attach his rapidwinder to the M8...
>>>
>>> 7) Most impressive stands for me were Zeiss (the smart guys: once  
>>> they
>>> focused on their lenses and cover a very large market now) and
>>> Hasselblad (huge, as if they really know that's it's now or never
>>> again for them -to many very good alternatives, esp. in digital  
>>> backs-
>>> so they really had to impress. Which they did.)
>>>
>>> 8) Most yummy? Alpa. But I'm afraid that will always stay a dream  
>>> for
>>> me...
>>>
>>> 9) Smartest stand? Leica. Esp. the 'grandstand' they created where
>>> every model was glued to a tripod and where you could really fondle
>>> them. A massive success.
>>>
>>> 10) Did I see people I knew? Lucien tapped on my shoulder at the  
>>> Leica
>>> stand and we had a good chat. He told me that Solms was planning an
>>> only B&W M8, as had been suggested on the LUG here. Which is a great
>>> idea IMO.
>>> We both said we'd wait a bit before buying one, though: the first
>>> model of a launch is always a bit tricky...
>>> Then I wandered on in the vain hope of seeing other LUGgers, but  
>>> with
>>> so many people, it's hard to spot a familiar face, esp. if only  
>>> known
>>> via photos. Red Leica roses in our button holes might have been a  
>>> good
>>> idea. Or nail down a 'quiet' meeting point and meeting hour. Lesson
>>> learned for next time. I did see some LHSA members at a distance,  
>>> though.
>>>
>>> 11) I spent the most time at the first hall, where photo exhibitions
>>> were held and books were sold. A lot of good work to see there, esp.
>>> in the Kodak Nachwuchs F?rderpreis corner. And some good books,  
>>> which
>>> I brought home.
>>>
>>> 12) Will I come again in 2 years? I don't know. It is one of those
>>> events that you crave for, go to, say never again once you're there,
>>> and 2 years later the itch is back and there you go again. So  
>>> probably
>>> yes.
>>>
>>> 13) Don't forget to visit the centre of K?ln when you're there. A
>>> beautiful town, good food, good beer, with an impressive cathedral
>>> (the Dom) and plenty of photo (and shopping) opportunities.  
>>> Except for
>>> the Ludwig Museum, which is wonderful if you love Picasso and post
>>> 50's art, but where you're not allowed to take photographs. And they
>>> do take that very seriously! Must be that famous Deutsche
>>> Gr?ndlichkeit...
>>>
>>> 14) So did I take any? Yes, I did. But you'll have to wait for those
>>> because I only shot film: I wanted to try out my new Biogon  
>>> 2,8/28 on
>>> my MP.  When the lab has developed them, I'll certainly post them  
>>> for
>>> your viewing and maybe for your pleasure.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Philippe
>>>
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