Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hey Henning, I did read your post on this and replied asking about the
second mark that I can't see.
This is from the Leica US site
The LEICA UNIVERSAL WIDE-ANGLE VIEWFINDER M enables precise cropping of the
subject with the LEICA TRI-ELMAR-M f/4/16-18-21 mm ASPH.
on the LEICA M7 and MP as well as the digital LEICA M8. For the LEICA M8,
the focal length extension factor of 1.33x has to be
considered, so in this case the bright-line frames for 21, 24 or 28 mm are
set on the LEICA UNIVERSAL WIDE-ANGLE VIEWFINDER M.
I like German beer
Or if you find an extra index mark to show us, I'll split the beers with you.
Cheers
Hoppy
-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Henning Wulff
Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 12:02
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
>Gene,
>Yes on an M7.
>No on an M8. Want to bet a six pack on it ;-)
>The universal wide finder does not compensate
>for the "crop factor". There is no interface
>with the camera except for a shoe mount.
>The internal finder does compensate, of course.
>
>Cheers
>Hoppy
I think you guys missed this before, but I'll
point it out again. There are TWO lines on the
dial on which you set the focal length. One for
the M8, one for the film bodies. Easy. Both
formats are taken care of.
The dpreview picture of the finder shows this clearly.
Please contact me for information on how to send me my sixpack. :-)
>-----Original Message-----
>From:
>lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org]
>On Behalf Of
>grduprey@mchsi.com
>Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 01:02
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
>
>Looking at the dial on the new finder, it looks
>like you set the focal lenght for the actual
>focal length for the camera. And that
>is what I also got reading the DPreviw artical
>and the lit from Leica on their site.
>
>Gene
>
>
>-------------- Original message from "G
>Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>:
>--------------
>
>
>> Gene, what about on an M7
>> What about the current 21 on an M8?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>> grduprey@mchsi.com
>> Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 15:01
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
>>
>> Actually Hoppy, you set the finder for the focal lenght of the lens you
>> are
>> attaching, as Tom alluded to several posts ago.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" :
>> --------------
>>
>>
>> > And the quoted price for lens and universal
>>wide angle finder is 3,500 Euro.
>> > Actually when you read the spec more carefully, that finder will
>> display 5
>> > frames (all singly), being 16, 18, 21, 24 & 28. Since
>> > there's no interface with the camera (except
>>for a mounting foot) I guess you
>> > need to remember which to select on the M7 etc or M8.
>> >
>> > So for M8:
>> > with the new Tri-Elmar you set 16, 18 or 21
>>but you actually get 21, 24 or 28
>> > effectively.
>> > If you fit the current 21 you'd need to set
>>28. For the 24, 28 and up you use
>> > the camera's finder.
>> >
>> > For the M7 and earlier, you can use 16, 18 or 21 as 16, 18, or 21
>> > For the current 21, 24 and 28 you can set 21, 24, or 28
>> > For 28 (.72 & lower) and up you can use the camera finder.
>> >
>> > My brain hurts, I need to lie down now.
>> >
>> > Cheers Hoppy
>> > 51 this year or 68 effective with crop factor.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>> > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf
>> Of
>> > grduprey@mchsi.com
>> > Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 13:41
>> > To: Leica Users Group
>> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
>> >
>> > The Leica web site has all the info on it
>>also. Considering the cost of the
>> > Zeiss single/double lens finders compared to the tri
>> > finder from Leica, can't be that bad. And
>>then it is the only finder you would
>> > need.
>> >
>> > Gene
>> >
>> >
>> > -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" :
>> > --------------
>> >
>> >
>> > > Mark the specs and brochure are released,
>>at least to user forum members. I
>> > > guess they must be in wide circulation by now.
>> > > It does look yummy. Its Dimensions and weight
>> > > Length to bayonet flange approx. 63mm
>> > > Largest diameter approx. 55mm
>> > > Weight approx. 350g
>> > > For us metric folks.
>> > >
>> > > But you are going to have to buy the horrendously complex and
>> expensive
>> super
>> > > finder thingie to go with it.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > > Hoppy
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> > > >
>[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org]
>On Behalf Of
>> > > Mark Rabiner
>> > > Sent: Friday, 15 September 2006 10:44
>> > > To: lug@leica-users.org
>> > > Subject: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
>> > >
>> > > http://www.dpreview.com/articles/leicam8/
>> > > !!!!!!!~!!!!!
>> > >
>> > > I'm not seeing any mention of this mouth
>>watering hot little volcano of an
>> > > item as part of the dpreview article on
>>the M8. I wonder if anyone bothered
>> > > turning the page!!!?!.
>> > > I think we're all to busy playing with our DSLR's to bother with
>> what's
>> > > happening with Leica.
>> > >
>> > > On your M8 it becomes an 21-24-28 mm.
>> > >
>> > > Film M users might clamor for a 21-24-28 mm. Putting it mildly.
>> > > Could get them to learn to love the digital revolution.
>> > > To go with their 16-18-21 mm which has revolutionized their Leica
>> film
>> > > shooting.
>> > > Not that THAT would NOT also revolutionize their film shooting.
>> > > As they've promised it covers a whole hunk of 24x36mm flim.
>> > >
>> > > But sooner or later it will be interesting and I think it will be
>> after
>> > > another year that Leica makes a lens optimized for the 1.33 "format".
>> > > With advantages in the compactness end as
>>well as the quality of the other
>> > > end as its an optic designed around a much smaller image circle. And
>> can
>> > > thus be made to produce a higher quality image in that area.
>> > > Smaller the circle the higher the resolution and so on are going to
>> be.
>> > > Some of us may not know that. Glass which
>>covers medium format as in 6x6cm
>> > > do not have the rez in a 24x36 area tat a
>>lens designed for that format has.
>> > > And its obvious a medium format lens is
>>nowhere near as compact as lenses
>> > > made for 35.
>> > >
>> > > I've been loving using my 55-200mm F/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor
>> lens.
>> > > Featherweight and incredibly compact.
>> > > Its an 80-300 which looks like a 105 2.5 or 80 or smaller.
>> > > Especially if you leave the lens shade off.
>> > > The guy across the street would have no idea you were getting a tight
>> > > headshot of his Pomeranian.
>> > >
>> > > Or Shih Tzu.
>> > >
>> > > Or Brussels Griffon.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Mark Rabiner
>> > >
>> > > 40?46'58.65"N 73?49'31.68"W
>> > > Whitestone NY 11357
>> > >
>> > > http://rabinergroup.com/
>> > >
>
>
>
>
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