Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Funny you should make those initial comments, Ernie - I received the following last evening from a Leica owner - and still occasional Leica-shooting - friend, who copied it off a Zeiss-friendly website.... No! I did not write it myself - nor did he. ------------- And finally some comments from a bigshot at Carl Zeiss that read like a shot at Leica: Q: There are rumors that Zeiss will eventually have its own digital rangefinder camera body that will accept the M mount lenses. True or false? Will it be Cosina-made? Full 24 x 36mm sensor? At Carl Zeiss, we can imagine such a camera. But we feel that is not the right time to introduce such a camera now. Today digital technology is still developing fast and the initial value of a digital camera is lost in quite a short time. Carl Zeiss wants to protect the investment of its customers and will therefore require a high level of maturity of products before we can justify to offer them to our customers. At the time we introduce such a camera we want to be sure that the owner has invested in a long term value. 1. It is much too early to determine a manufacturer for such a camera. 2. Full 24 x 36 is, as far as we see today, for a variety of reasons the preferred sensor size of most serious rangefinder photographers. > > I looked at the video - the M8 looks glorious but............ it's a > piece of computer equipment with a lens attached and as such it will > become outdated in the next 24-36 months. This is a radical > departure for Leica..... the M series for the last 30 years was > already outdated and static for the most part. That WAS the nice > part about the M series. As it turns out I don't even have the money > to pay the sales tax on the upcomming M8 but even if I did I would be > leery of spending so much ( as an amateur) on such a camera. Just my > $0.02. I'm not anti- digital but for now I'm satisfied with my > Pentax DSLR. Just my two cents. > > ernie nitka > > > At 03:42 AM 9/13/2006, you wrote: >> I agree with everything Scott said. :-D >> >> I still haven't bought a digital camera. I'm enjoying using Fuji's >> wonderful slide films more and more. No colour management problems. >> No computer hardware and software problems. No storage problems. No >> data losses. No steep learning curve on image processing. No huge >> up-front costs for equipment that is soon superseded. Just ongoing >> enjoyment of a technology that has matured to provide superb >> performance. >> >> Sure, I'll buy digital bodies in time. I'm looking forward to it. >> I'm waiting until the technology is mature, i.e. better, more >> convenient and cheaper than the film in every respect. ;-) >> >> Rick. >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/Nature >> >> On 13/09/2006, at 3:00 PM, Scott McLoughlin wrote: >> >>> Jeff Moore wrote: >>> >>>> [snip] >>>> >>>> Yeah, point-N-shoots. Remember how I said I dislike SLRs? I hate >>>> point-n-shoots all the more. Once again, that hasn't kept me from >>>> keeping one in a pocket or bag, but... you just don't know where the >>> [snip] >>> >>> I agree with everything Jeff said. >>> >>> I'll just add that while I use a DSLR alongside my M's, for a small >>> pocket >>> camera, I much prefer to simply shoot good old 135 format film. >>> No "small sensor, noise, EVF, shutter lag, yada yada" crap to put >>> up with. >>> Just shooting a film P&S is so much easier and, in the general >>> case, yields >>> so much higher quality results - on good old 135 format film - than >>> nearly >>> any P&S digicam. >>> Use one's film of choice - Delta 100, Provia 100, TriX, NPH, >>> whatever floats >>> your boat. Get over it, and just pay for the film and processing. >>> This "cost" >>> didn't stop any pro or serious amateur photographers in years past, >>> so why >>> should it now? Is the universe of photographers getting poorer or >>> something? >>> >>> I've now purchased 2 digicams as presents for family members, and I've >>> coached a few other friends and family through a digicam purchase >>> of their >>> own. >>> But I have absolutely NO intentions of using such a digicam >>> myself. No >>> thanks. >>> Whatever their strengths and weaknesses, my Rollie AFM35 or my Oly >>> Stylus Epic have produced many, many nice "keepers" - on good old film >>> that I can scan and print or choose to have wet printed at quite >>> handsome >>> enlargements. >>> >>> Personally, given the current crop of small sensor digicams, I just >>> don't see >>> any real point to using one. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Pics @ http://www.adrenaline.com/snaps >>> Leica M6TTL, Bessa R, Nikon FM3a, Nikon D70, Rollei AFM35 >>> (Jihad Sigint NSA FBI Patriot Act) >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information