Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/03

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Subject: [Leica] Re:Skin tone - film vs. digital (not a debate)
From: scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin)
Date: Sun Sep 3 17:21:02 2006
References: <200609031717.k83HCoBM096229@server1.waverley.reid.org> <44FB44DF.6020609@telefonica.net> <7.0.1.0.0.20060903142519.01c04658@telus.net> <82c9dd70609031705h2cf8c3c4p159ac7eb0bf60519@mail.gmail.com>

Hmmm, I wonder if bit depth would have any bearing on my other
inquiry about the possibility of shooting photos dominated by shadows
but minus the nasty shadow noise.

Is it a safe assumption that the greater the bit depth the better
the tonal gradation and separation in the shadows?

Hmmmm.

Scott

Eric Korenman wrote:

> The resolution diference without the AA filter is amazing.
> The 10.2 MP DMR chip really does perform like 14-16MP chip that has an AA
> filter.
>
> Plus the DMR operates at 16 bit depth, whereas most chips perform at 
> 12 bit
> depth.
> Nice when you want to pull out shadow details from those RAW files.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On 9/3/06, David Young <telyt@telus.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Felix wondered:
>>
>>
>> >>What's the nature of the difference
>> >> > between the DMR and a D70/D200?
>> >Cost?
>>
>>
>> There is, obviously, a firmware difference between the Nikon and
>> Leica digital cameras/backs. I like the colouring of  both, though
>> the DMR seems to be closer to a Kodachrome... more muted colours
>> than,say, Fujichrome, but a wee bit more accurate, too.
>>
>> But the HUGE difference is that every APS-C format digital SLR out of
>> Japan has an Anti-Alaising filter, to reduce Moire patterns in the
>> photos.  The DMR, in keeping with it's MF format heritage (it was
>> designed my Imacon - the big 6x6 camera back maker), does not have
>> one, and used software to solve the problem, if need be.  As AA
>> filters work by making the final image a bit "fuzzier" (for lack of a
>> better word) the DMR will deliver much finer detail than any of the
>> Japanese DSLRs - pixel for pixel.
>>
>> As a result, the DMR is most often compared with the 16 mpixel Canon
>> 1DS MkII, in terms of resolution.  Not bad for a 10.2 mpixel camera 
>> back.
>> :-)
>>
>> And, of course, the DMR accepts Leica glass. True, the Canon's will
>> do that, with an appropriate adapter, but only with stop down
>> metering and no auto-diaphragm.
>>
>> And when you compare the 1 DS MkII, to the Leica R9 with DMR, even
>> new, the Leica is not a lot more, so I'm not sure cost enters into an
>> "apples to apples" comparison.
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> David Young,
>> Logan Lake, CANADA
>>
>> Wildlife Photographs: http://www.telyt.com/
>> Personal Web-pages: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Replies: Reply from telyt at earthlink.net (Douglas Herr) ([Leica] Re:Skin tone - film vs. digital (not a debate))
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Message from telyt at telus.net (David Young) ([Leica] Re:Skin tone - film vs. digital (not a debate))
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