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Subject: [Leica] You can buy the Noctilux 50 1.2 on *bay...
From: bd at bdcolenphoto.com (B. D. Colen)
Date: Thu Aug 24 19:13:54 2006

Depth of field is a bit of a misnomer with this lens, which makes it
extremely difficult to use. But speed is speed...:-)


On 8/24/06 10:01 PM, "G Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> B.D.
> Yep, I understand and agree, as I posted.
> The wedding "glows" and those last two unsharpened shots have stacks of
> resolution, gentle sharpness and tiny DOF and remind me of a medium format
> with no grain and softer contrast, like an old Rollei 6x6 or similar wide
> open (except for the DOF).
> 
> Cheers
> Hoppy
> Still learning
> & also shopping for one of those Rolleis (now where's that 1.2 Planar)?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> B.
> D. Colen
> Sent: Friday, 25 August 2006 11:10
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] You can buy the Noctilux 50 1.2 on *bay...
> 
> The unsharpened images, Hoppy, are the first two - which, though the depth
> of field is miniscule, are sharp and don't to be look as though the shot 
> was
> taken with older, uncoated glass - though the wedding shots, in lower 
> light,
> at lower shutter speeds and higher iso, indeed do.
> 
> 
> On 8/24/06 8:55 PM, "G Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> 
>> B.D. no informed comment to make on the Noctilux.
>> Regarding the Zuiko, I can certainly see, in the wedding shots, what Don
> has
>> described as the "glow". Disregarding the miniscule DOF, which I could
> never
>> master with 1.4's let alone bigger, the shots, as displayed, look to me in
>> effect, like older uncoated glass and not at all like a relatively modern
>> era Japanese SLR lens (70's or 80's Zuiko, Nikkor, Canon etc)
>> 
>> It may well be some combination of lower light levels and quality, slower
>> speeds, DOF, influencing the shots. Or also personal interpretation on
>> appropriate sharpening for the subjects.
>> That's not a value judgement, in fact for some of the wedding shots, I'm
>> sure that folks would be very pleased to see just what you have shown.
>> I don't see any unevenness suggesting any issue with the particular glass
>> sample. No shortage of resolution in those last posted pics either. It
>> always reminds me of medium format film (abetted by the absence of grain
> in
>> the digital image. Plus of course the "glow" isn't apparent at all to me
> in
>> many other photos that you have posted recently.
>> Just my perception based on the low res versions on a computer screen.
>> I do understand that you haven't applied any processing, including
>> sharpening
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Hoppy
>> Learning constantly
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> B.
>> D. Colen
>> Sent: Friday, 25 August 2006 09:54
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: [Leica] You can buy the Noctilux 50 1.2 on *bay...
>> 
>> For the buy-it-now price north of $5K -
>> Or you can buy an Olympilux 55 1.2 for the buy-it-now price of....$355...
>> And don't tell me it isn't sharp, Don. :-)
>> Here's another example - and the second image is a crop at 100  percent.
>> These are raw images, converted to black and white, with no in-camera or
>> post-camera sharpening.
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/BDColen/OlympiLux2_14
>> 
>> 
>> 
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