Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/08/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Not for long, I'm heading for the med cabinet right now. Want to get my mind right before we all begin out semi-annual genuflection to Whalen and Capa. :'( Lets see, where did my wife hide my Valium? : B. D. Colen wrote: >Ohmigod, Walt, are you off the meds again?! ;-) > > >On 8/21/06 7:15 PM, "Walt Johnson" <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote: > > > >>Faked it >> >>G Hopkinson wrote: >> >> >> >>>B.D. I have read the several posts with great interest, and now have the >>>facts straight on this one. Importantly, as you noted, I wasn't deriding >>>either Rosenthal's work nor the bona fides of the participants. >>>What the posts tell me is that the image of the second flag raising >>>rightly >>>became a very powerful image in support of the just cause. >>> >>>Does anyone care to contribute regarding the Capa images that I mentioned? >>>I shall try to locate the reference to post for the story regarding the >>>damage to his D Day images. Also, I would be interested in any comments >>>regarding the Gen McArthur coming ashore reference. >>> >>>Cheers >>>Hoppy >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Another famous photographer went >>> >>>Of course as Rosenthal said at one point, if the famous photo had been >>>"staged," he would have made damn sure that the five marines and one >>>corpsman were looking at the camera, so that he could id them left to >>>right >>>and attach home towns...:-) >>> >>> >>> >>>On 8/21/06 3:38 PM, "Walt Johnson" <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I think Greg hit it right on the head and B.D. missed the boat a bit in >>>>his earlier post. It's been so long since I did any marching all those >>>>stories are foggy. And hell, I never marched that damned good any way. >>>>8-) >>>> >>>>Walt. >>>> >>>>GREG LORENZO wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>hoppyman@bigpond.net.au writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>Walt, regarding those particular fighting men, I seem to recall a >>>>>>documentary saying that the famous photo was in fact a restaging of the >>>>>>actual event, similar to Gen McArthur wading ashore more than once. I >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>see no >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>cloned smoke clouds though! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Hoppy, >>>>> >>>>>The famous photo is the second one made that day by Joe Rosenthal. The >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>flag >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>used in the original photo was deemed to be too small so a second, >>>>>larger >>>>>flag was obtained from an officer on a ship offshore for the 2nd iconic >>>>>image. In that sense it was 'staged' but this was done to enable both >>>>>the >>>>>remaining Japanese and American marines fighting to secure the landing >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>strip >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>and remainder of the island to see that the US had taken Mt. Suribachi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>before >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>they had in-fact 'secured it'. >>>>> >>>>>Regards, >>>>> >>>>>Greg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > >